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Minnie Burner 6th May 2015 10:29

WIWOL Wednesday
 
OK, I'll start it off.......


http://www.aviationancestry.com/Recr...rew-1973-1.jpg

NutLoose 6th May 2015 11:17

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...nty/Light1.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...nty/Light3.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...nty/Light2.jpg



http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...nty/Light4.jpg

A couple of mine from Brunty :)

Wander00 6th May 2015 11:24

WIWOLs - any excuse! But nice pics - who were the good looking guys in the advertisement - when was that from?

GeeRam 6th May 2015 11:41


Originally Posted by Wander00
WIWOLs - any excuse! But nice pics - who were the good looking guys in the advertisement - when was that from?

Sometime between 1967 and 1974 judging by the 29 Sqn helmet colourings......

izod tester 6th May 2015 11:46

Says who they are in the text of the advertisement. Flt Lt Martin Jones and Fg Off Richard Manning (and my eyesight wasn't good enough to let me GD(P)).

Image title says advert is from 1973. The Engineer is Fg Off Peter? Challens and the Fighter Controller is Fg Off Mike Good.

Wander00 6th May 2015 11:53

Aah, thanks - on my laptop came up as dark blue on light blue and in the bright sunlight we are enjoying (briefly, I expect) just a bit difficult to read. Appreciated

Minnie Burner 6th May 2015 12:17

Harald Joergens Interactive Panorama
 
https://www.haraldjoergens.com/panoramas/lightning/

Minnie Burner 6th May 2015 12:40

Pete Chapman at IAT
 
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/2323161.jpg

etimegev 6th May 2015 16:03

Very nice pics Nutty! :ok:

Thud_and_Blunder 6th May 2015 17:09

First met RM in Oman 82-84, then saw him again on an Air Ambo visit to Linton circa 2007. Some people just can't give up this flying lark, eh? :ok:

CoffmanStarter 7th May 2015 14:26

Still a great looking BRITISH aircraft :ok:

Basil 7th May 2015 18:40

Hope the following isn't too risqué.
When I joined BEA in 1973 and flew Viscounts at Glasgow, one of the pilots was Jock Sneddon, ex Lightnings.
He'd a tale of, upon receiving his posting, 'phoning to enquire of a colleague already on type what performance he might expect.
Jock's account went along the lines of:
"I asked him whit it was like and he said; Well, you line it up, shove it intae reheat an' the first thing that happens is yer foreskin hits ye in the face; by the time ye claw it doon again yer passin' ten thousand feet in the climb!" :}

1.3VStall 7th May 2015 18:59

And then there's the legendary remark after flying a single-seater, FMk1, for the first time (no T-birds had yet been built) to the question "how was it?"

"Well, I was ahead of it the whole time until brakes release"

morton 9th May 2015 15:37

OK, my first go at adding photo’s to text and I have had the slides for quite some time so please be gentle with me!

Back in the late 60’s 390 MU spent a lot of time at Tengah splitting 74 Squadron Lightnings into Airfix like components.
http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1431098738
http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1431098733
http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1431098738
http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1431099482

This was so the bolts holding the two wings together could be PRC’d to stop fuel leaks as I remember. Hours – well a week or more – of endless fun. We did a good job, as did those who did the Bruntingthorpe Lightnings with not one drip tray in sight – so far!

But this is how I remember them – even the ones at Tabuk!
http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/...pszpvbetly.jpg

On the MU I also remember spending some time replacing burnt wiring on the spine after Avpin fires – which were clear and smokeless as I remember and difficult to spot until it was too late!

jonw66 9th May 2015 16:54

Excellent shots Morton give us more:D

newt 9th May 2015 18:42

Actually WIWOL Wednesday is next Wednesday when a few of us get together for a game of golf in Norfolk!:ok:

jonw66 9th May 2015 19:02

A friend of mine out at Aldergrove had been a liney at Binbrook and got a jolly in a T4 at Akrotiri. Pilot says do you want a long trip or a short trip.
The short trip sounds fun sir.
Landed after 8 minutes on reserves but I think he would be smiling.






Have a great day on the golf course sir.
Jon

Minnie Burner 12th May 2015 19:48

The Wednesday WIWOL whoosh-fcuk weaponeers
 
Enjoy your golf day WIWOLS, don't forget: some of us still work for a living!

Here's one:http://sg-etuo.de/media/xdc/etuo/XR7...rsoetebier.jpg

Courtney Mil 12th May 2015 22:38

What a great thread. I never flew the vertical twin jet, I shall certainly read here with great interest. Well done, Minnie Burner for starting it.:ok:

bike2lv 13th May 2015 00:09

Amazing aircraft- and British! Here is Treble One's last Lightning formation flight, awaiting their turn at Sqn handover.
http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/...psozzepwea.jpg

My Konica camera, Kodachrome slide.

RAFEngO74to09 13th May 2015 00:46

I thought this might bring back memories for some WIWOLs - radio traffic prior to and after the crash of Lightning F6 XR769 as a result of an engine fire off Spurn Point on 11 Apr 88 - probably the last abandonment prior to withdrawal from service.

Someone has identified those speaking in the comments. Some nice unrelated Lightning pics in the vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm8fI9hTIqc

Whenurhappy 13th May 2015 05:47


and the Fighter Controller is Fg Off Mike Good.
Now there was a top guy - drifted off to obscurity as an Air Commodore I believe. Excellent OC SFC at Boulmer (kept me out of the doo on one or two occasions)

ORAC 13th May 2015 07:14

God, that tape brings back memories. Was it really 27 years ago? It seems like yesterday. :{:{

GeeRam 13th May 2015 08:36


RAFEngO74to09 I thought this might bring back memories for some WIWOLs - radio traffic prior to and after the crash of Lightning F6 XR769 as a result of an engine fire off Spurn Point on 11 Apr 88 - probably the last abandonment prior to withdrawal from service.
Yup, was the last RAF in-service loss, and the last ejection from a Lightning.

Ian Black published the photo's in one of his Lightning books of the a/c on fire etc., as he was DC's No.2 that day.

There's a transcript of the R/T and further details on the LA website here.

June 2004 Story

Hueymeister 13th May 2015 13:55

Porky, you're famous!:)

ORAC 13th May 2015 14:13

As befits the RAFs Premier Jewish fighter pilot...... :p

GeeRam 14th May 2015 12:19


Originally Posted by Hueymeister
Porky, you're famous!

WIWOL autograph signing session in the Aces High Gallery tent at a Duxford Airshow a few years ago ;)

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...gends10015.jpg

morton 14th May 2015 22:17

Correction? I have been contacted by the guys that run the Lightnings info website Home Page

They suggest that the pictures I posted might actually be from when XR758 was being dismantled in Darwin (after a fire) for shipping back to the UK. I never went to Darwin and was not involved in splitting any of the Aircraft for the PRC job at Tengah. If anyone who did either could verify where the pictures were taken it would help me as well. Certainly the domed hangar is not the norm for UK bases. Maybe someone might recognise themselves or have knowledge of the Ground Equipment in these pictures?

500N - can you pm me please? Your message box is full so my reply to you was bounced.

http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1431554837

http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1431554834

chickenlover 15th May 2015 11:11

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/p...pyofimg253.jpg

chickenlover 15th May 2015 11:13

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/p...pyofimg256.jpg

Wander00 15th May 2015 11:17

Oi, it's FRIDAY!

BTW, ISTR Porky getting airborne at Binbrook (around '82 ish I guess) and hitting the underside on the runway and heading skywards followed by a sheet of flame. Recovered the aircraft too I think. Seems a lifetime ago.

chickenlover 15th May 2015 11:23

I was away on Wednesday:)
I think commander Black took this one-I'm sure he won't mind me posting it.
Twas a good day out.
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/p...pyofimg257.jpg

smujsmith 15th May 2015 19:57

Ahh, Chickenlover, such fantastic photography. To embody both of The Royal Air Forces premier aircraft in one shot is a true art. Great post, great shots. Thanks.

Smudge :ok:

HaraldJoergens 17th May 2015 10:37

The interactive cockpit panorama - now you can "start the engines"
 
At this high resolution interactive cockpit panorama of a Lightning F.53 you can now (virtually) start the engines, the buttons are on the starboard side, on the right of the IFF and in front of the oxygen regulator , and indicated by a blinking symbol.

The original sound has been recorded bythe Lightning Preservation Group at RAF Binbrook.

Minnie Burner 20th May 2015 14:11

http://sg-etuo.de/media/xdc/etuo/XN7...bier_72_tb.jpg


http://sg-etuo.de/media/westersoeteb...0676-wsb_s.jpg

P6 Driver 21st May 2015 12:39

Having sat in a single seat Lightning cockpit, could I ask anyone who flew it whether operating the throttles was exceptionally uncomfortable, or was I just not putting my left arm in the correct position?

The reason I ask is that with my left hand on the throttles, I found the large lever aft of them (radar controls?) to be digging in to my forearm.

sarn1e 21st May 2015 18:25


Having sat in a single seat Lightning cockpit, could I ask anyone who flew it whether operating the throttles was exceptionally uncomfortable, or was I just not putting my left arm in the correct position?
Quoth the actress to the bishop: "you were doing it wrong!" (I'd guess it was at or beyond full downwards scanner elevation extension).

No, operating the throttles wasn't remotely difficult or uncomfortable - though we could have done with the seat being a bit less upright for the 5hr+ sorties.

Never flew the Phantom, but, compared to the Tornado F2/3 (qualified in both cockpits), the radar hand-controller was an ergonomic marvel - in, admittedly, a total slum of a cockpit - that only gave trouble when someone left the lid open and it got wet, thereby offering the potential to receive a mighty belt from all the trons running through it when you turned the radar on. I was forever mighty careful after having being bitten once.

Not, of course, a patch on all the more modern stuff, but it could be rightly described as 1950's-style HOTAS-ish...

smujsmith 21st May 2015 19:13

Gentlemen,

Are we allowed requests on this smashing thread ? I will continue, I was fortunate to be employed on 56 Squadron (possibly the premier Lightning Squadron) at Akrotiri in the early 70s. I have a picture I will scan, upload and post, it's on the ground unfortunately, from those days. Anyone have any photographs of 56 in that era ? Pre coup and Turkish invasion. Thanks in anticipation. Great pics so far.

Smudge :ok:

newt 21st May 2015 19:17

With over 1000 hours, I never found it a problem but I was only 20 when I first flew it so was much more slender than now! But I do sit in the cockpit at Bruntingthorpe from time to time and it still fits like a glove! Even the hand controller falls nicely into the palm and the brain remembers how it works and which switch does what! Amazing as I usually have trouble remembering where I put the car keys!:ok:

P6 Driver 21st May 2015 19:38

sarn1e & newt,

Thank you for your replies to my question.
:ok:


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