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RAFEngO74to09 21st May 2015 20:14

smujsmith,

Just for you - 56 Sqn at Akrotiri !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBDF60o2Ns8

Minnie Burner 26th May 2015 21:22

Salute to 'Taffy Holden's' F1 XM135 by 74 (Tiger) Sqn
 
http://www.74squadron.org.uk/images/...ning%20008.jpg

smujsmith 26th May 2015 21:29

rafengo74to09, unfortunately 56 didn't operate TSR2 in Cyprus, certainly not while I was there, but thanks for the thought.

Smudge :ok:

RAFEngO74to09 27th May 2015 00:44

Smudge,

Fixed the link above to 56 Sqn Lightnings in Akrotiri.

RAFEngO74to09 27th May 2015 00:55

Lightning F2A 92 Sqn "King Cobra" circa 1976:


http://www.92sqdn.brushhouse.co.uk/pics/XN778.jpg

RAFEngO74to09 27th May 2015 01:01

Lightning F2A 92 Sqn circa 1976:

http://sg-etuo.de/media/westersoeteb...-92Sqn-wsb.jpg

RAFEngO74to09 27th May 2015 01:10

92 Sqn with 15 aircraft - and look how many see-off crews there are for a wave:


http://www.92sqdn.brushhouse.co.uk/p...ngCobras-1.jpg

Argonautical 27th May 2015 15:00

Newark 2014

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...psviarzria.jpg

1.3VStall 27th May 2015 16:14

Don't you just love the photos of the Ninety-Blue aircraft?:) We had proper air force in those days!

smujsmith 27th May 2015 18:22

RAFEngO, thanks for that vid link. One minute and six seconds of pure nostalgia for me. Certainly some of the happiest times I've had in my 30 years of service. Great to see again.

Smudge :ok:

langleybaston 27th May 2015 20:47

I just love that fighter!

Met Officer for 19 and 92 at Guetersloh, where I lived among the steely-eyed aces on the top patch.
I was S Met O Binbrook's line manager thereafter, and I seem to have visited Binbrook far more often than my other outstations ranging from Leeming all the way down to Marham.

Is it true that one set of tyres only lasted half a dozen flights?

Fitter2 28th May 2015 06:43

Tyres last 6 sorties? At 226OCU 1 or 2 was not unusual.

newt 28th May 2015 09:46

In a strong crosswind they only did one landing!

alisoncc 28th May 2015 10:09

Does this count? 60MU at RAF Leconfield in 1967/68 plastering all the electrical and comms cabling with this brown epoxy gunk. The donks had been removed to allow access. If it does count then WIWOL YUK!!!

Wasn't a patch on my years on 230 OCU 63/65 at RAF Finningley. As a Cpl Tech Air Radio on Vulcans, now that was truly magic in comparison.

1.3VStall 28th May 2015 11:14

Newt - you're half right, it was the crosswind take off that sha**ed the tyres, the subsequent landing merely finished the job!

Fortissimo 28th May 2015 12:01

Minnie Burner

There was indeed a comparatively tame flypast of 3 x F4J from 74 Sqn, plus a Hawk in the box (to talk VHF to Duxford, the F4J didn't have it!). I was on the ground for the XM135 roll-out at the time and there were TV cameras there too (hence the tame flypast). The photo is actually a montage produced by the IWM photographer and there was "a bit of a flap on at Group" when it appeared in the RAF News.

Having seen the photo in said rag, and knowing exactly how an apparent sub-100ft formation flypast would be viewed, I called the AOC's PSO to give him the ammo to head off any 'senior enquiries', just in case. I was about 30 seconds too late, as there had apparently been a small thermonuclear device detonated in the vicinity only moments earlier. Happily, assurances that it was at least 500ft MSD and comments about the different focus for the Lightning and F4J elements on the same print were convincing enough to ensure there was no fallout!

langleybaston 28th May 2015 14:55

Thank you gentlemen for the info. on tyres: half a dozen was obviously propaganda!

And please can I have some photos or tales of my first love: 19 squadron at Guetersloh?

They were resident when 92 pitched up from Geilers I believe.

Molemot 28th May 2015 15:04

Tyres....
 
As an aside, I recall looking at the tyres on a MiG 15. Looked shagged to me... but it seems two layers of canvas was fine; only rejects when THREE layers were showing....!

Also the "Bloodhound" supersonic car (aiming for 1000mph) will be doing it's first runs on Lightning tyres....

ExRAFRadar 28th May 2015 16:29

Not sure of this has been posted before and apologise if it has.

Some good video in it.


smujsmith 28th May 2015 17:17

Lightning tyres
 
As a Jnr Tech Airframe fitter at Akronelli in 1973, I was deployed to Malta to be the tyre bay back up to a 4 ship detachment from 56 Squadron. The exercise ran for 4 days and I well remember in that time I replaced 39 main wheel covers (tyres) and 3 nose wheel covers. Having re arranged my social life, my working hours were modified to accommodate the jet. I was told that it was the first diet for a long time that had met their full sortie rate,mind not had delays due to tyres. I have a photograph of OC 56 presenting a young smujsmith with a tankard in appreciation of my voluntary denial of Cisk and Hop Leaf. I will dig out the shot and post it next Wednesday, hopefully someone may recognise some of the cast. Particularly the boss.

Smudge:ok:

RAFEngO74to09 28th May 2015 18:56

langleybaston,


Although I prefer to post pics of aircraft from the RAF's premier fighter squadron (92 Sqn) responsible for shooting down the most aircraft in WWII and - in the Phantom era - since, just for you I did manage to find this very nice 19 Sqn Lightning T4 pic:


http://sg-etuo.de/media/zetsche/XM97...qn-zetsche.jpg

RAFEngO74to09 28th May 2015 19:01

A 19 Sqn Lightning F2A managing to avoid landing in the water and/or crashing through the fence, and impressing onlookers at the same time !


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...b251019038.jpg

langleybaston 28th May 2015 20:04

EngO: many thanks indeed. I can HEAR the latter aircraft!

smujsmith 28th May 2015 20:18

Gentlemen,

I know it's not Wednesday, but can I offer this small tribute to the Tiger Squadron;

http://youtu.be/NBci6ynQNQo

Smudge :ok:

Argonautical 3rd Jun 2015 08:07


Salute to 'Taffy Holden's' F1 XM135 by 74 (Tiger) Sqn
Here she is now, Duxford 2014.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...pskelmnlgn.jpg

BEagle 3rd Jun 2015 08:36

Last 'Flash Trail'
 
The last 'Flash Trail' APC deployment of Lightnings to Akrotiri:


The late 'Lord Percy' took them to the south of France, we then took them the rest of the way. Happy days!

Minnie Burner 3rd Jun 2015 09:06

The Difference a Few Weeks Make
 
September 1974. Finningly BoB. Display & Spare.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...innBoB0972.jpg

A Little Later. Wattisham Junkyard, the same 2 jets.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...Watt250675.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...Watt250675.jpg

Brighter Days

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/2099131.jpg

MPN11 3rd Jun 2015 09:28

Was it not the full checkerboard tail, omitting the fin flash, that caused the then Fighter Command to clamp down on coloured fins?

I recall 74 at Tengah painting their fins black on the day of the formation of Strike Command (30 Apr 68), as they had no instructions from them or the shiny new 11 Gp preventing such activity ;)

BBadanov 3rd Jun 2015 10:05

I thought the full checkerboard tail was OC 56's aircraft ??

Vzlet 3rd Jun 2015 10:59

"QRA" before the start of a TLP mission, Jever, April 1986.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/0304152.jpg

Argonautical 3rd Jun 2015 14:46


I thought the full checkerboard tail was OC 56's aircraft ??
They applied it to more than one :-

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...psv9nsnjpi.jpg

smujsmith 3rd Jun 2015 17:08

Excuse a post from the ground crew side, perhaps someone could help me with these. As a tyre bay support man I was sent to Malta on an Airdex with a team from 56 in 1974 I believe. Apparently I did such a good job of keeping the tyres going that they told me it was the first Airdex they had not lost sorties due to lack of serviceable main wheels. On return to Akrotiri, I was sent for by the boss, who presented me with a tankard in appreciation of my efforts. To this day I can't remember his name, hope someone can help;

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...pszzt6lzkc.jpg

This second shot is a better look at the aircraft L, and the Squadron lads who I went to Malta with. It only took me a couple of weeks to wangle a posting on to the Lightning Minor Team.

Argonautical and Minnie Burner, great shots of 56 Aircraft today, thanks. Photo credits station photog section, Akrotiri 1974.

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5bhmsjry.jpg

Smudge :ok:

Minnie Burner 3rd Jun 2015 21:44

Congratulations, Smudge.
Looks like Martin Bee was the CO.
http://kinghamhillschooldays.co.uk/n..._bee_large.jpg

GeeRam 4th Jun 2015 08:29

First time I've seen that photo of Pete Chapman's white tailed '696 aero's mount 'on the dump'....... :{

Mind you, he certainly wrung it's neck and FI in that last season display's :E

PC must be up there among the best of those that displayed the beast over the years.

Has there ever been a vote among WIWOL for best aero's display pilot......?

Fitter2 4th Jun 2015 09:45

In '65 226 OCU Lightnings had the red and white tail/spines

http://i62.tinypic.com/k7z1y.jpg

but we were told to remove all the polyurethane paint (nasty messy job for the riggers) and just have the 145Sqn badge and St George's cross

http://i57.tinypic.com/rsdenm.jpg

We were told that someone had waved a radiation counter at the paint and discovered it collected 'Special' Weapon' testing dust at altitude, but you know how rumours spread.

dragartist 9th Jun 2015 20:16

WMDWOL
 
Please forgive my posting 2 hrs prematurely.


http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps3siggqxx.jpg


This is a painting of mine from September 82. It hangs in my Dads hall (Goudie would have seen the original a few moths back) It is a picture taken through the glass hence a slight reflection. My Dad was on 5 Sqn up at Binbrook at the time. I do have some pictures he took at APCs in Akr in my old albums in the loft.
I have no idea how I found energy but after a hard day at the drawing board I would come home and get the brushes out often till past midnight. Now I do PPrune till late! I mainly painted pictures of the aircraft I had been working on but did this one for my Dad. I never worked on the Lightning. As a teenager my dad did send for me when he was at Oakington to remove a lost spanner from a oil tank on a Hercules Engine on a Varsity. My arm was slim enough at the time to recover the spanner without having to split the tank. I guess this may have had some influence over my career choice. I wander if I should have stuck to painting rather than Engineering!

smujsmith 11th Jun 2015 19:35

Minnie Burner, your #73.

Thanks for that, I can put a name to that photograph now. Of course, in those days 73/4 a Jnr Tech was lucky to know his own Cpls name, let alone the Wing Commander. Thanks again.

Smudge:ok:

Rhino power 16th Jun 2015 22:38

One for WIWOL's and fans alike...

Superb new title on the Lightning from, Ian Black.

http://firestreakbooks.com/files/201...ng_Jacket.jpeg

Home | Firestreak Books

-RP

Minnie Burner 24th Jun 2015 13:17

Airfix
 
How many future j-jox made a model of this?:

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/2233185.jpg

Minnie Burner 24th Jun 2015 13:43

At least, 19 Sqn are consistent
 
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...b251019038.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...20Comps/F4.jpg


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