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Rhino power 30th Sep 2015 23:50


Originally Posted by thing (Post 9133239)
Is that a Spit tail in the first pic?

Yes, PR Mk.XIX PS853 I think...

-RP

smujsmith 1st Oct 2015 11:34

Smashing shots as always RP, thanks for making my week.

Smudge :ok:

Minnie Burner 7th Oct 2015 11:41

https://www.flickr.com/photos/prestw...hy/14016274975

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7447/1...5954ce7de8.jpg

newt 7th Oct 2015 11:47

She is now safe and sound at Bruntingthorpe where she will be well looked after!:ok:

Minnie Burner 7th Oct 2015 12:37

XR713
 
She's in here somewhere (box?) ..........1972

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/1233145.jpg

glad rag 7th Oct 2015 12:55

Always wondered how the airspeed indications fluctuated when they pulled out of the dives [target against the cold sea] when the pitot probe bent down.....:8

newt 8th Oct 2015 08:59

Pitot probe only bent down when someone swung on it instead of just ducking under it!:ugh:

Minnie Burner 14th Oct 2015 16:30

74 @ COLT, 56 somewhere else
 
http://www.lightningpilots.com/74sqn...ishall1961.jpg

http://www.lightningpilots.com/siteb...0-1178x813.jpg

smujsmith 15th Oct 2015 19:45

Doesn't red look good on any Mk of Lightning ? Great shots Minnie B, the 56 one being your best this week in my humble opinion.

Smudge:ok:

Minnie Burner 16th Oct 2015 12:31

No credit claimed
 
Thank you Smudge, but I claim no credit for them.
They are lifted from Ed Durham's website: index
But I agree: A different era altogether.

NutLoose 8th Dec 2015 23:36

Pssst

The Man Shed Visits The Lightning Preservation Group

CoffmanStarter 9th Dec 2015 06:34

And just to add to Nutty's cracking link ... Some great nostalgic images of the awesome Frightening :ok:

https://mobile.twitter.com/lightningotd

TyroPicard 8th Feb 2017 13:29

XM 173
 
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...02d1afae6a.jpg

XM 173 on display at the Dyson staff canteen.

The people at Dyson are interested in hearing from former pilots of XM 173 (56 Sqn, Firebirds mount, 226 OCU).
As they have a collection of jet engines they would also like to get in touch with "early Harrier" and Vulcan pilots.
PM me and I will pass on your contact details....you might get a free cup of tea!

D120A 8th Feb 2017 15:59

But I don't fancy AVTUR dripping in my tea...

fantom 8th Feb 2017 16:06

Avpin is worse.

BossEyed 8th Feb 2017 16:23

Ah, but you wouldn't have AVPIN for tea. You'd have it for dinner.

It's a starter.

pasta 8th Feb 2017 17:19

Leftover fuel? In a Lightning?!?

Darren_P 8th Feb 2017 17:26

I saw the hardback copy of Lightning Boys on sale at The Works yesterday for £3.50

GeeRam 8th Feb 2017 20:39

Last November's twilight Q-shed double QRA scramble of LPG's 2 x F.6's. :ok:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn_NdtZxA9I

Rossian 8th Feb 2017 20:45

Bosseyed.....
 
.....nice one matey, I groaned and laughed out loud at the same time.
I wish I had that Lightning in some of the spaces I inhabit. I once almost got a ride in a two seater. I was actually booted and suited and walking out to the aircraft with the driver. His flight commander, walking in, stopped him and demanded to see his maps then announced "Well you can **** off" ( to me) and declared that he was taking the jet and my driver "to check him out". Bloody rude I thought.

The Ancient Mariner

Fonsini 10th Feb 2017 01:38

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Flying into the sunset.

Wander00 10th Feb 2017 09:50

Nice pic, and I am not of the Faith (ie a WIWOL)

Lyneham Lad 10th Feb 2017 14:36


Flying into the sunset.

Nice pic
And a poor sense of direction... ;)

Percy Cute 17th May 2018 16:27

Sad Farewells
To Keith Williamson, Al Martin & Gus Crockatt.

index

Cornish Jack 17th May 2018 21:35

More in hope than optimism - on 30th September '71 one of the visiting Lightnings at Akrotiri had to 'bang out' in Epi Bay ... standard back end fire, apparently. The pilot was recovered by 1563 Flt S&R Whirlwind and deposited at PMH. I was on the wire for that pickup but cannot recall ever knowing who the 'victim' was. Very unlikely, but might anyone have the identity - just idle curiosity :bored: That, oddly was the only sea recovery of military aircrew I ever had to do (oddly, because that, theoretically, was our raison d'etre!!) I was also bollocked by the Big Cheese for sinking the dinghy, not bringing it back with us ... having an inflated dinghy in a single engined , small cabin with an injured survivor for the over water return transit didn't seem too clever to me ... I'm claiming octogenarian privilege for irrelevant queries! :p

Rhino power 18th May 2018 02:25

Cornish Jack, this is most likely the Lightning/pilot combo you describe...
XR764 / 56 Sqn, Flt. Lt. R. Bealer.

-RP

GeeRam 18th May 2018 08:19


Originally Posted by Rhino power (Post 10149875)
Cornish Jack, this is most likely the Lightning/pilot combo you describe...
XR764 / 56 Sqn, Flt. Lt. R. Bealer.

-RP

Jack, he's probably contactable through Lightning pilots website via Ed D, as Dick Bealer (56 and 226 OCU) is still listed on the website.

Cornish Jack 18th May 2018 11:52

Rhino power and GeeRam - many thanks, both, for a remarkably fast answer!! :D Not wanting to contact - just satisfying a sudden nagging thought prompted by this WIWOL thread. :\ My other abiding memory of the Lightning was a newsreel shown at a Bangkok cinema which showed a Sqdn formation takeoff in the early days with the classic rotation to the vertical. The audience burst into spontaneous applause - never experienced before or since!! Ah well!, back to the memory bank! :)

hawkeye 3rd Jun 2018 21:31

Lightning Radar

In the early ‘70s I was fortunate enough to get a couple of rides in the T5, firstly with Pete Chapman and then with Mike Smith. It was a bit of a blur at the time, but Pete did try to show me how the radar worked, a big job in 45 minutes, although I do remember him putting a ring over the target, which locked the radar in a narrow scan.

I recently watched Ian Black in a video and something he said about the Phantom radar caused me to wonder about the mental arithmetic which went into calculating the altitude of the target. On the last generation weather radars, using the one 1 in 60 rule we used to work out the tops of CBs with the simple formula of 100ft per degree of tilt per nautical mile, so if the radar was tilted down at 2 degrees with a cloud 40 miles away the tops would be 2x100x40 or 8000ft below us. I am assuming that the Lightning mate had to make a similar calculation. My recollection is hazy to say the least, but I seem to remember horizontal bars across the screen. Were these radar tilt bars?

Would any Lightning mate like to explain the target acquisition process and the mental calculations that had to be made to determine target altitude and speed? Thank you in anticipation.

ORAC 4th Jun 2018 03:56

Smash it to the edge and follow it round.......

Wander00 4th Jun 2018 10:16

Mike Smith, my Gnat QFI after Vic W went back to Africa. Anyone know if he is still with us. He had the biggest Alsatian dog I ever saw. Would let you into the house, but not out!

GeeRam 4th Jun 2018 10:32


Originally Posted by Wander00 (Post 10164501)
Mike Smith, my Gnat QFI after Vic W went back to Africa. Anyone know if he is still with us. He had the biggest Alsatian dog I ever saw. Would let you into the house, but not out!

Mike Smith (ex-29 & 92) is still listed on the Lightning pilots directory, so if the same one, then yes.

dook 4th Jun 2018 11:20


Smash it to the edge and follow it round...….
'Twas "smash it to the edge, sneak it down the side, and lose it off the bottom

2 TWU 4th Jun 2018 13:02

One peep is worth a thousand sweeps.

Wander00 4th Jun 2018 15:47

GeeRam - thanks - will try to contact him there

Trumpet_trousers 4th Jun 2018 18:20



'Twas "smash it to the edge, sneak it down the side, and lose it off the bottom
....and the Event lights? (Event 1, Event 2 IIRC?) Radar acquisition? MX Seeker acquisition?

insty66 4th Jun 2018 20:13

Looking forward to lots more entries coming up from Marham in the coming years! :}

newt 5th Jun 2018 07:12

insty66! There is no connection between WIWOL stories and that ridiculous aircraft due to arrive at Marham!

ORAC 5th Jun 2018 07:43


Twas "smash it to the edge, sneak it down the side, and lose it off the bottom
If the QWI suspected a pilot was, let us say, be economical in his technique, we would get a phone call asking us to set him up with a 150 intercept crossing behind. That looked identical to a 180 in the B scope right up to the final turn when instead on staying on the edge it suddenly darted into the middle then disappeared.

At which stage the radio call, “you b*****d” or something similar was heard.....

dook 5th Jun 2018 11:54

I found the 180 crossing behind the most difficult.


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