Imagegear - just a shame that the 'TopCat' is a rich imbecile surrounded by like-minded rich imbeciles.

https://gosint.wordpress.com/2017/04...ased-on-a-lie/

just sayin..:eek:

MJB, a quick glimpse on broadcast video showed what appeared to be an impact crater to the top of the shelter suggesting penetration before detonation.

Who just happened to win the election.

On your political scale there will be dozens of cats in the world.

So is a rogue state one that threatens and invades another country ?

Sorry if I'm covering old ground but, 59 Tomahawks? Are that many needed to disable an airbase? (Genuinely don't know)

Also, what is the use by date on a Tomahawk...if you get my drift...

Sputnik news agency have released a series of images from the base. Looks like some of the Tomahawks used were the TACTOM variant with the penetrating warhead? At lease one image shows the inside of one of the shelters with a hole in the roof. Obviously one shelter didn't receive a strike and the two Su-22 Fitters inside survived.

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Archive footage of Shayrat Airbase from April 2016. Fitters and Floggers based there.

Could be an old photo or they could have towed the SU-22 Fitters inside the shelters afterwards.

Recent news suggest there is 500 Billion Dollars Fraud and Waste in the US HUD Department.....just saying!

Yes....that is Five Hundred Thousand Million Dollars......and you think the Taxpayers give a second thought the cost of sixty cruise missiles used in this attack?

So what do you make of this Former DIA Colonel Patrick Lang, SASless?

:} Of course, everyone will have seen this movie, including Trumpton?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KFwXDYhG3w

TEEJ, thanks, those would be from the video I saw. Just an aside on runway interdiction.

In the Falklands the aim was runway denial.
In GW 1 the aim was to pin the aircraft down to allow them to be plinked.
In GW 2 runway interdiction was not necessary as aircraft could be plinked before they could launch.

The best counter air is kill the crews. Next best, but easier, is kill the aircraft.

Al-Bert,

Lang's credentials are very impressive and he should know what he is talking about.

That being said....without knowing far more about him it is impossible to evaluate his position on issues.

I would suggest our involvement in the areas he was responsible for reporting upon has not been what could be described as a stellar success has it?

I have said in the past some huge mistakes were made.....using a single Source to base a plan of action, failing to field sufficient forces after the invasion, and then dis-banding the Iraqi Military, Police, and Government.

That was a genuine recipe for failure.....copied from WWII and the treatment of the Germans. Even Patton saw the folly of that back then.

Peter Brookes's cartoon in The Times today.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84yoPvXkAAMe-l.jpg:med

No surprises there, then! :eek:

If the good Col is to be believed, this latest Trumperation wasn't a mistake but a pre-planned deception nichts war?

Funny how during the Obama presidency the American press reported that the "United States bombs 5 Muslim nations".

But read the papers today and they will tell you that "Trump Attacks Syria".

That cartoon of the Pentagon being responsible for the decisions versus Trump making them individually shows the exact same mentality - Trump is behind everything. We saw a similar press mindset during the Bush administration, but this time it's verging on an obsession.

Personally I have always believed that presidents do exactly what they are told.

Yep, that's democracy for you! :hmm:

Fonsini, I take it you are not so ex-pat that you missed Yes Prime Minister.

Photo #3067785 seems to show that something got through the roof of a bunker.
Not sure how that news agency (Sputnik) got those photographs, nor their date ... ..

As a former civil servant I have seen more than my fair share of "Humphreys". I once had a Surveyor (Senior Executive Officer) who went into near apoplexy because I took a taxi while on assignment in London, cost 5 pounds - the reason - I dared to pay for it myself instead of claiming it on my expenses, which I was not entitled to do because I was only carrying one suitcase and not 2, as stipulated by regulations.

So he was angry because I was supposed to claim it so he could then reject the claim.

Bureaucracy at its finest.