Anyone know if the August FSP offers have been sent out?

If they have, I'll need to re-do the Assessment day for the fourth time... sigh.

Appreciate the info if anyone has it.

Hey Septerra,
Cant offer anything super concrete but I had an OSB mentoring evening a couple of weeks back and met a couple of people on #28,29,30 courses (which I believe would've been greater than 4 weeks notice for those). My file just got down there last week and I haven't heard anything yet so hopefully those 31-33 courses are still to be filled.

Tayra, appreciate the info mate. Thanks :ok:

Plenty of good tips in this forum. Expect questions on estimation, rapid maths hand eye coordination etc.

EDIT: Seems hand eye coordination has been removed recently based on anecdotes in this thread.

No, it's not normal to wait this long. The fact you are in the middle third means there will be plenty of people in above you and would be replaced as they come out with new candidates going through the testing.

You may have to wait in the pool for a while. I was in your position once and got a surprise call to fill a vacancy on a course. I ended up getting an offer and I'm now in the job I wanted.

Just be prepared to go through and complete another Assessment Day to improve your competitiveness after the year has gone through as the results only last a year.

Best,
fs

Hi all! Just received an invite for FSP for 20th August which I am over the moon about! (Medical approval 11 may). Anyone else have this date yet? Keen to have a chat before going down

I'll also be at the 20th Aug - 2nd Sep FSP. Would be great to have a chat!

I'll be there also! Shoot me a message if you wanna chat, cheers.

Hey guys just wanted to update you all, I completed my FSP just over a month ago and got recommended in top 25% of candidates. Just wondering how long those of you who received offers had to wait for your offer and what % of the pool you were placed.

Cheers

Medical Appeal Query?
 

Hello All!

Like many of you I've ventured down the path of joining the ADF with aspirations of becoming a Pilot.
I've spent a considerable amount of time going through the wealth of information on this thread and am grateful to everyone who has contributed over the years.

I've recently completed my additional pilot testing having passed with eligibility for all the roles I had preferenced and had a Assessment session scheduled for a end of August. I've since had my session cancelled due to receiving a Med Class 4 after completing my Part B Medical Questionnaire.

I've been rendered ineligible due to a head injury I suffered while snowboarding in August 2016. I had a fall, suffered a concussion and had a tonic clonic seizure. I was medically cleared by my local hospital two days later after various scans (CT etc) and applicable checks and monitoring. I have no ongoing management for anything from the injury and this is the only seizure I have ever had in my life.

I note the ADF medical guidelines state you must be seizure free for at least 2 years. However, I was hoping for guidance for the following:
- Is it worth obtaining medical reports and attempting to appeal the decision?
- Is the decision likely to be overturned at all?
- Has anyone experienced anything similar and what was the outcome?

Thank you!

Hi everyone.

My pilot dossier was sent off to Tamworth last week (DEO). How long have competitive candidates had to wait between the paperwork being received and an invitation for FSP being made?

Would it be safe to assume if I receive an invitation to attend FSP that it wouldn't be until next year or is there a chance I could scrape in for a DEO spot this year?

Logical,
The answer will remain as 'no' until you ask the question. It might cost a bit to appeal (getting the specialist reports ect) and it may take a long time. You should keep the following in mind. I'm not a doctor, but head injuries and seizures and aviation don't really mix well. It isn't just the ADF that has a tough stance - so to do civil aviation regulatory bodies and militaries world-wide. Have a look at the DAME Clinical Practice Guidelines for head injuries and seizures on the CASA website. The ADF may have it's own additional and/or different policies, but this is the sort of thing you will come up against.

Thanks for your input Ryano, it is greatly appreciated. I'll have a read over the CASA head injury/ seizure policies and make an informed decision from there. I guess all I can do is try to appeal and hope for the best.

In future, lie, lie, lie...

Look at the possible outcomes.

You get in, they find out, and they kick you out.

Or you tell the truth and you don't get in...

Either way you end up at the same place.

When I joined asthma was a big no no, yet there was more than once I heard a mysterious puffer like sound when "camping" during OTS. They all went on to pass and become FJ pilots.

Hi everyone,

Great thread this! Been reading it all and absorbing as much info as I can from it all.

I passed assessment day last Wednesday, and have been recommended for all three (Ugrad Army AeroEng, RAAF Pilot, RAAF ACO).

I must admit though I am somewhat trepidatious about what the ADF may think of my age and my suitability to be a pilot (turning 37 next month).

The ACO who did my interviews seemed to think that as long as I passed all the testing they threw at me, then it wouldn't be an issue. However, if I did get in, I'd be coming out of flight school around 40....surely this would preclude me automatically from some jobs (i.e. fast jets), correct?

Has anybody here had any experience or knowledge of "old" blokes like myself making it through FSP (and then flight school), and if so, where they tended to end up? While I'd love to fly with the RAAF, if its going to be pushing sh*t uphill due to policies frowning upon an older candidate, then I'd be more than happy to fly helos with Navy or Army (if those pathways automatically prove more fortuitous given my age). I'd be thrilled flying in the military period, no matter what airframe it happened to be.

Thanks for any help you guys may have for me.
David

What's the latest coming out of FSP?
Is there still a hold on Army recruiting for pilots?

That's correct. I was told by DFR that Army are full for pilots, whereas RAAF are the opposite, and are in overdrive recruiting for pilots at present. Perhaps it's all those new airframes coming in, plus skilled F18 pilots now doing JSF conversion training (and Orion jockeys moving across to the P8). Leaves me wondering who'll be left flying the Super Hornets and Growlers during the transition period whilst one would imagine a large % of pilots are training on and transitioning to the JSF.

The Army is not full of pilots. Due to a number of reasons, the Army has a major backlog of people waiting for an operational conversion. Since the training system can't produce pilots any faster and is already running at capacity in terms of output, its only option is to slow its intake of fresh trainees to allow the backlog to clear. This will take a long (!) time. Even if it magically trained everyone waiting overnight though, the regiments would still be undermanned.

Hi all,

Was just assigned my FSP & OSB course, DEO Course 201736, commencing Sunday 10 September – Saturday 23 September 2017. Just seeing if anyone else on here is attending at the same time.

My file was sent down to PSA on the 28th of May 2017, to give an idea on potential waiting time for those applying.

Cheers,
Richard

Hey there everyone.

I just got an invite to FSP for 10-23 September :D :D :D Is anyone else going to that one? Would be good to have a chat beforehand.

Best of luck to everyone going through the process currently.

(didn't mean for those smilies to look like such self-congratulatory clapping, by the way, but there doesn't seem to be a better "happy" option)

Great minds think alike. Tried going to your profile but couldn't find a link to privately contact you. Hopefully the one on mine is working, shoot me an email and we can get a group chat going potentially.

Hey JN8 - Congratulations to you and every one else on receiving your invitation for FSP!!!

Just wondering, how long ago did your enlistment coordinator send off your pilot dossier to Tamworth? Just trying to get an idea of the waiting period for an invitation.

Cheers

Sent you an email, Richard :)

Hey spandexo,

My dossier was sent off in Early October last year. I was just sent confirmation of my selection for the FSP starting on 3rd September two weeks ago so It can take some time. I had pretty much given up hope. I am a bit of a special case though as my age would have to count against me. I'll be 44 by the time my FSP starts.

Anybody else on here attending the 201735 course?

Anyone know if the male ban affects us?

Hey Titan

Thanks for the response and congratulations on your FSP invitation!! Looks like I have a bit of a wait as my dossier was only sent off last week.

Hello Titan. I am attending the 201735 Course 3rd September to 16th

Maybe, maybe not. From what I can make out the more competitive you are the quicker it will happen.

I was told when they first sent mine off that all the spots had been filled until the end of the year. They also told me that I was unlikely to get a spot at the start of the year since that is their busy time (I guess filling all the spots with the previous year's school leavers). They told me that after April things got quieter and I might get a spot after that.

As I said though my dossier may not have been as competitive due to my age. I have heard that the really competitive ones can get offers withing a month. Good luck buddy but don't give up if it doesn't happen straight away otherwise you may find yourself cramming in the study and desperately trying to get in shape like I currently am.

Thanks Titan, Fingers crossed it will all happen soon. And yeh I've just started studying up again!!

Best of luck for your FSP/OSB! :ok:

Hi All,

I'm about to sit RAAF Pilot specific testing next week. From what I have worked out from reading on here I should expect questions on the following:

Reading aircraft gauges.
Aircraft spatial orientation tests
Fast maths - estimations
Speed/Distance/Time questions
Memory Numerical tests
Basic decimal multiplication, addition & subtraction.

Am I on the right track with this and is there any advice anyone could give me?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Good luck on your FSP Titan. Good to see there's hope yet for us old boys! I'm 37 in 3 weeks time, and waiting on my FSP call up too. :)

I'll be 35 in November. Also waiting on a call for FSP. My dossier was sent about a month ago. At this rate they'll have to run a "Dad's Army" FSP course.

Hey spandexo. Thanks. I was pretty lucky - my file was sent up around 18 July. So I guess you could hear something soon, or you could be waiting for a while... Good luck, hopefully it will be sooner rather than later!

Looking back over posts from this time last year, it seems like there was a July/Aug 2016 intake at OTS and then nothing until Feb and March 2017, and again a couple in July/Aug 2017. Does anyone know if that's pretty much how it works every year?

Hey VF144,

If you want to chat then feel free to send me a PM. I'm currently logged in from my phone on a work break so I'm not sure if I can PM you.

I'm not sure if that's how it works for all the services but from what I can see that's the schedule for NEOC (Navy).

This year was Feb, March, June, July. No more RAAF recruitment for the rest of the year. I'd imagine 2018 will be similar but I don't imagine the OTS dates will be out until late this year or early 2018.

Thanks for your responses, titanpilot and AT591 :ok:

Any late year FSP scheduled?
 

Hey all,

I'm over the moon as I have my pilot assessment day booked in for September! I was just wondering does anyone know if there are going to be any more Flight screenings this year/ how to find out?

Hey GC unless you're going for ADFA entry its pretty unlikely you'll get a FSP spot this year. Your enlistment coordinator would have to get your file to Tamworth immediately after your assessment session and then have it paper boarded very quickly along with you being at the top of the pool competitiveness-wise after that. They send out FSP offers pretty much bang on a month prior to start.

On the other hand for ADFA entry you've got a good shot assuming you're competitive and DFR moves quickly for you (this can vary greatly! ;)).

This is something I want to do too, in order to check up on how my application is going. However I rang my enlistment coordinator at DFR for info on how to get in touch with Tamworth and he didn't entertain my request at all, seeming quite clear in that it's not an option for candidates to contact them directly...and yet yourself and quite a few others have been in direct contact with them? How do I go about this? Got me concerned now given the delays you experienced that were only discovered when you actually rang them directly!