Wingmong

kinda lost me there fella. Guys here are looking for a decent pay rise for all. If a few of them happen to be officers, not sure what your gripe is. Then again, if you are happy to get a crappy pay rise, good for you fella, very economically sound too - you are an example to us all.

Personally, I think I am great and deserve 8%;)

Anybody any ideas on what this means in English? :8

Officers maoning again! you dont sem to mention the massive pensions of the Air Ranks! The lack of DWR that you do in comparison and the Whole Flying Club is run by your SNCOs

Not sure what you are suggesting here. Are you suggesting we reduce Air Rank pensions (to what level?) or increase SNCO pensions? Could you give us examples of where 'we' do less DWR (I don't know what that is) and to whom 'we' are being compared. If 'our' Flying Club is being run by SNCOs maybe they should take the blame for the state of the Whole Flying Club.

As a SNCO, I agree with most of the post on here. However WINGMONG you are totally out of order. Everyone in this outfit deserves a good payrise this year. Everyone is at the limit, every section is stretched to the max.
Give the boys and girls what they deserve.

I was wondering, will there be a complete, correct sentence in any of your future pearls of wisdom?
In any case, the "Officers maoning again (sic)" are actually hoping for a decent pay rise for all, but you're just moaning about the officers. I have no idea what "DWR" is, but if it's anything to do with amount of work put in by officers, every single officer without exception on my Squadron works a minimum 50 hour week, excluding station duties and night flying, while on top of their flying and administrative duties they have ingrates like you to try and keep happy. :ugh:
At least, that's how it is for the Navy. I'm sure my colleague in the Air Force will correct me if it's any different for them.
However, if you personally don't care about your pay, you can always try to refuse whatever "rise" we get this year - I'm sure JPA has a button for it somewhere.:rolleyes:

Nothing today
 

Afraid there is no announcement today, the only defense written statement in Parliament today is about the Industrial Strategy—Fixed Wing Sector.


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If it did, I bet that would be the ONLY bit of JPA to work correctly.:rolleyes:

Doesn't look like it's today either, however, Monday may bring more joy;


The House will sit at 2.30pm
Oral Questions - Culture, Media and Sport; Church Commissioners; Public Accounts Commission; Speaker’s Committee on the Electoral Commission.


Time will tell.

On another note, WINGMONG I am hoping that you are refering to SNCO's in the third person, because if you actually are a Senior you make yourself and the rest of us look pr1cks with comments like that.

The AFPRB anouncemnt is always given in a written statement, all written statements are listed for that day about 0900 on the House Of Commons order of bussiness webpage.

"So this will be the first AFPRB to report in March then"
Not necessarily! Could be April but I'm not saying which year.

wait for inflation figures
 

Biggus

Didn't realise the figures are published so far into the month. However, they might manage to get the figures out earlier this month if they want to use them to justify a crap pay rise:* I still think they'll wait. All too quiet.

On the optimistic side, did hear that Govt TOLD AFPRB to go back to the table to ask for MORE money around the time the Operational Allowance came out!:ooh:

Never know - GB might want to secure some defence votes ahead of May with his last budget by spending loads more cash on us and then letting some other fool clear up the mess:E

Would a decent payrise change your mind? Would you vote for GB????

No!

No way!

Not ever!

What he said.

Any comment on the attached?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6408061.stm

Can't see a specific figure for the Armed Forces, but the story (in true journo fashion!) infers 1.9% along with all other Public Sector workers. Looks like we'll be doing theirs and our jobs later in the year, for our 1.9, if threats of industrial action go through!! :\

In answer to Lord Garden's question in the House of Lords on Monday:


Lord Drayson (for the government) said the following:

Does anyone know if the gallant and noble Lord has written an answer to the House yet?

Day one Lesson One on the Instructors course;

If you don't know the answer and can't be arsed finding out what it is just reply that you will find out and get back to them.


Reckon the honourable Lord spent a couple of weeks at Halton.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6408061.stm
Pay awards below inflation for public sector
[Public sector] pay awards would be implemented in two stages, and the armed forces in full, from April 1, said Mr Brown.


No mention of the AF numbers though.

3.3 % for all except senior officers.

Members of the armed forces, except senior officers, will receive inflation-busting rises of 3.3 per cent for the year.



http://www.euro2day.gr/articlesfna/29638834/