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LFFC 23rd Feb 2007 22:18


How can an AVM possibly say that next years pay rise will be a lot better?

Each year a totally separate AFPRB sits to decide the pay increae. There is often an upper cap set by the Treasury/Government policy of the day, based on economic conditions/inflation rate, etc. Who can predict in advance what the situation will be in a years time?
Maybe the rumour of a 2-stage pay rise is true and the AVM is refering to the second stage that might be paid on 1 Jan 08? Guess we'll just have to wait and see - but I'm not holding my breath.

However, if the stories that I keep hearing about the number of aircrew (particularly pilots) leaving are true, then it would be a brave move to add insult to injury by capping the AFPRB's recommended pay rise.

formertonkaplum 26th Feb 2007 05:54

Today
 
Will today bring the bad news........

Probably

Sospan 26th Feb 2007 08:12

Not likely to be today, a list of Written Ministerial Statements to be made today has already been published.

see here http://www.publications.parliament.u...da/ob70226.htm

Confucius 26th Feb 2007 09:20

Perhaps we're not getting a pay rise this year...

L1A2 discharged 26th Feb 2007 09:42

Fed up with waiting ... ?
 
Fed up with waiting for any authoratitive info, e-mailed my MP to ask him to table a question .....

Wonder if anything will happen now? :rolleyes:






Oh, is that a black Omega, certainly I can come with you, just need to finish this e-mail ........:sad:

Sospan 26th Feb 2007 10:24

See my link above, there isnt even a sniff of it in todays Oral Questions to the Secretary of State for Defence :ugh:

Confucius 26th Feb 2007 10:35

P'raps Des is too busy looking for A: a personality and B: some charisma, to worry about us lot.

MLT 26th Feb 2007 10:36

In the past the Pay Review Body Reports have been published at midday on the day of release and this has been announced at the number-10 press briefings.

startermotor 26th Feb 2007 10:49

I for one have just about enough. It had better be a fairly good pay rise or we could see lots of good people leaving.


Maybe that is what they will be banking on.

Confucius 26th Feb 2007 13:31


See my link above, there isnt even a sniff of it in todays Oral Questions to the Secretary of State for Defence
Perhaps L1A2's MP can pass a motion or whatever perverted practice they get up to when they should be working.

BootFlap 26th Feb 2007 18:54

Right then, they've basically told me I will spend ~6 months of each of the next 3 years in Afghanistan, so when are they going to tell me the good news about pay? Or is this a case of 'do you want the bad news, or the really bad news?'
Mrs BF is really impressed, she has already worked out how she is going to spend my 'operational bonus'; each 6 months buys her a slightly larger cup size! (Going to be a bit weird in the middle 6 months though!):E

LFFC 26th Feb 2007 19:05

Lord Garden asked the question in the Lords this afternoon:


4:31pm - Lord Garden "With regard to the morale of our troops, this may sound as if it is a long way from operations in Afghanistan, but it will be important to them: when will the Armed Forces Pay Review Body report be published? It is now more overdue than it has ever been, and it will be taken by the troops as a signal of how much the Government value what they are doing."

4:37pm - Lord Drayson "I do not have an update for the House on the timing of the pay review report. If I can get some information, I will write to noble Lords with an answer."
My underlining - but that's a very astute statement.

L1A2 discharged 26th Feb 2007 21:22

Current 'average rises'
 
According to a recruiting website that I visit the current 'average' rate of pay increase is 3.4% in manufacturing industries (those few which remain) and 3.6% in "other" areas. For the staticians the article does not state mean or mode :hmm:
Busy polishing my draft CV. :D

Sospan 27th Feb 2007 08:00

Its not today either !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.publications.parliament.u...da/ob70227.htm

TheHogwartsBEngO 27th Feb 2007 08:17

According to a recruiting website that I visit the current 'average' rate of pay increase is 3.4% in manufacturing industries (those few which remain) and 3.6% in "other" areas. For the staticians the article does not state mean or mode :hmm:


The small civvy MRO that I work for have given a whopping average pay rise this year of a fantastic 0.0% so far...

the grass in not always greener :=

timex 27th Feb 2007 18:22


the grass in not always greener
No, but it is Grass and not Sand...........

Sospan 28th Feb 2007 07:48

Once again the announcement will not be published today. :mad:

I_stood_in_the_door 28th Feb 2007 08:25

My MP
 
All,

I also contacted my MP to raise the question of 'When and What?' are we getting. And indeed, what is going on at the MoD aka 'Handbrake House'.

To date, no reply. Any luck with you, L1A2?

ISITD

LFOGOOTFW

:ugh:

propulike 28th Feb 2007 08:31

Perhaps they're waiting for a 'bad news' day. It really wouldn't be a good idea to announce a low award when we can't take industrial action - but the civilianised bits of the MoD are doing this !!! (MoD Staff go on strike over pay).

(Always was a good idea to cut costs by getting rid of uniforms, wasn't it Minister :p . In a rather perverse way I'm delighted to see it coming back to bite you on the ar$e.)

MLT 28th Feb 2007 08:45

As reported in the Financial Times late last night:

'The independent pay arbitrators that cover senior civil servants, judges, prison officers and NHS staff have recommended rises for most employees below not only the retail price index rate of 4.2 per cent but also the consumer price index, which stands at 2.7 per cent.'

'Only the review body covering the armed forces is understood to have recommended a rise above the CPI.' see article here.


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