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Tourist 1st Mar 2007 14:58

£100,000 FRI for pilots isn't bad though!
Especially for only 3 yrs return!

BootFlap 1st Mar 2007 15:01

SSH and MLT,

thanks for the links.

Tourist,

where are you getting your info? I seem to be in a void here! (that's been said before!)

Tombstone 1st Mar 2007 15:19

I've been sitting waiting for this to happen after the pathetic 'tax-free' bonus Brown gave us.

That's me done Mr Brown, I'm banging out and I'm sure plenty others will be doing the same. How you can have the nerve of offer the Parachute Regiment, Royal Marines, not to mention the AH & SH personnel a pay rise that is nothing more than a huge kick in the nuts I'll never know.

A big thankyou to the Chiefs who have obviously fought our corner to the bitter end. Perhaps CAS was too busy on his Typhoon course to have time to face up to the ministers at a time when the forces are already beyond breaking point.

Thanks for f**k all. :mad: :mad: :mad:

lokiukuk 1st Mar 2007 15:24

pay rise
 
just in 3.3%

Ginseng 1st Mar 2007 15:24

FRI
 
Chapter 4

Recommendation 5

"We recommend the £50,000 Aircrew FRI be extended from 1 Apr 2007 for three years payable to RAF and RN Career Stream Senior Officer Aircrew at the IPP for a five-year return of service. An additional £50,000 will be payable to RAF and RN Career Stream Senior Officer Pilots only."

Regards

Ginseng

Tourist 1st Mar 2007 15:29

I had not sotted the SENIOR OFFICER bit.
Surely they cannot mean Cdrs and above?!!:eek: :eek:

BootFlap 1st Mar 2007 15:30

An additional £50,000 will be payable to RAF and RN Career Stream Senior Officer Pilots only."
Is this at IPP on top of the 50k, or is it for all Career Stream Senior Officer Pilots regardless of age?

Tourist, 'senior officer' would probably be Lt Cdr/Maj/Sqn Ldr and above.

lampeterexile 1st Mar 2007 15:33

Go a long way towards my 6% rise in water and 4.8% rise in council tax. F*#@*~g W*&^~r:mad: :mad: :mad:

Ginseng 1st Mar 2007 15:34

JTO,

Yes. It is now on the Defence Intranet and has been linked on some Stn Intranet sites. At 90-odd pages, please don't expect me to quote it all here!


Bootflap,

It appears to be applied only at the IPP, for a further 5-yr minimum committment. The earlier text also suggests that while it could be offered to all qualifying pilots, it may only be open to selected WSOs. Happy reading!

Regards

Ginseng

plans123 1st Mar 2007 15:35

I've heard a rumour that the actual pay details have just been put on the Scampton Intranet site...................but I may be wrong.

Whaaa newark 1st Mar 2007 15:44

Pay Rise?? FRI
 
Has anyone got a link to the break down of the pay rise and to the Aircrew FRI?

Tks

No Whaaa

PPRuNeUser0211 1st Mar 2007 15:44

Does anyone know further gen on the troops getting a 9 or 6% payrise? Something about it on the mod news site but it doesnt go into much detail. Anybody know ranks and numbers for those? Trying to find out for the troops

Wrathmonk 1st Mar 2007 15:47

Tombstone

RM other ranks (not my words!) will be offered a £10K FRI (for those with four years service) subject to a 3 yr return of service. This includes the existing Commitment Bonus.

Infantry other ranks (which incluses the Paras I would have thought) will be offered an FRI of £4.5K for those with more than 4 yrs service in return for 2 years service. This is in addition to the existing commitment bonuses (£5.5K).

Granted, not the same as a career stream pilot but better than nothing.

W

plans123 1st Mar 2007 16:09

Whereas the majority of RAF ground staff will be issued PVR forms...........

Radar Command T/O 1st Mar 2007 16:12

Here's the actual report, in PDF:


http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/FFC91...b_rpt_2007.pdf

CAC Runaway 1st Mar 2007 16:36

Interestingly the report doesn't mention Army aircrew at any point when talking about FRI. Does that mean it is no longer required for the green suits? :ugh:

airborne_artist 1st Mar 2007 16:55

3.43.....As an indication of the effectiveness of short term measures, the manning position for Army Aircrew had improved with a surplus of Lynx and Gazelle Aircrew leading to withdrawal of the FRI in April 2006, a year earlier than planned.

D-IFF_ident 1st Mar 2007 16:57

Just done the sums for my personal circumstances - the bootom line is an inflation-busting net pay rise of less than 200 pounds per year. But, having referenced that to the Retail Price Index - coz I buys my stuff at the shops - I will be a couple of hundred pounds a year worse off.

The extra FRI for Snr offr pilots - 50 grand for staying for 5 years and then, for accepting that FRI, you can have another 50 grand too. Who is being targetted here? IMHO, (in the Multi world) the money will almost entirely go to chaps who were staying anyway; nobody will change their minds and stay for 5 years for less than 60000 net, and the cost of 5 years seniority and employability in an airline. The bottom line their must be a substantial loss in lifetime earnings.

15 months 20 days left...

Ginseng 1st Mar 2007 17:21

pba target
 
Yes, interesting headline isn't it? 9.4% for the lowest ranks!. This appears to be a disgusting piece of spin, generated by assuming that the "lowest ranks" concerned are deployed on ops and therefore receiving the Operational Allowance, which has then been factored in to the calculation of their "whopping pay rise". I can see the argument, but I think it will be a case of shooting through both feet when said troops find out that their basic pay is not rising by 9.4%. But that is just my opinion!
Regards
Ginseng

Edited to correct spooling errors!

Ginseng 1st Mar 2007 17:34

pba target
 
Actualy, to be fair, some of the answer probably lies here:

Chap 3, Recommendation 2:

"We recommend the targeted restructuring of Pay Range 1 from 1 Apr 07 as follows:

The rate for Pay Range 1 (higher and lower band) Increment Level 1 be increased to £15,677; and

The rate for Pay Range 1 (lower band) Increment Level 2 be increased to £16,111.

The annual salary scales arising from our recommendations are at Appendix 1."

Regards

Ginseng


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