Vigil (BBC 1 - 2023)
They couldn't possibly broardcast a program with a minimum of two F words per sentence often concluded with the C word.
I suppose things might have changed a little since I came out.
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We are currently watching 'Piece of Cake' for the first time in 8 years.(we have it on dvd)
More enjoyable this time around
MOD would not have anything to do with it so it was all done by LWT/OFMC and they obviously listened to military advisor Peter Matthews DFC and also to OFMC people on the tech/flying side.
Uniforms/Badges/ranks all spot on as with paying military compliments etc - all done correctly with no input from RAF/MOD.
No Agendas being pushed,No 'Box Ticking',sure a little irreverent at times but mostly done with dark humour ,the main actors actually have some character/personality and of course top notch pilots supplying some great flying footage - sometimes the flying scenes are done with great panache
Sure the purists complained of the 'wrong aircraft' being used in france but I would rather watch the wrong aircraft in action than see cgi cartoons.
Edit - and hey they actually knew what to shout to mechanics on engine starts - ''Contact'' -
Not ''Clear Prop'' which is usually used nowadays
More enjoyable this time around
MOD would not have anything to do with it so it was all done by LWT/OFMC and they obviously listened to military advisor Peter Matthews DFC and also to OFMC people on the tech/flying side.
Uniforms/Badges/ranks all spot on as with paying military compliments etc - all done correctly with no input from RAF/MOD.
No Agendas being pushed,No 'Box Ticking',sure a little irreverent at times but mostly done with dark humour ,the main actors actually have some character/personality and of course top notch pilots supplying some great flying footage - sometimes the flying scenes are done with great panache
Sure the purists complained of the 'wrong aircraft' being used in france but I would rather watch the wrong aircraft in action than see cgi cartoons.
Edit - and hey they actually knew what to shout to mechanics on engine starts - ''Contact'' -
Not ''Clear Prop'' which is usually used nowadays
Last edited by longer ron; 14th Dec 2023 at 07:44.
Not fiction, but did you see the recent 'Soldier' series about infantry training at Catterick? Plenty of robust language in that!
On iPlayer:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...1rk53/warriors
I just finished watching the first series on the sub. As a non-submariner (clearly), the technicalities are slightly (!) inaccurate but hey, it's telly and it was quite good fun for what it was; not a documentary. The problem is that even when we allow the TV folk in to produce a doc, we still hate the end result and we have endless threads as to the niagra of inaccuracies. Looking back, Fighter Pilot seems hugely professional compared to most of today's documentaries but we, as a military or ex military cohort are probably not the main target audience.
That said, there's no excuse for some of the actors' berets I've witnessed over the years.....
That said, there's no excuse for some of the actors' berets I've witnessed over the years.....
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Even within the bounds of dramatic inaccuracies there surely must’ve been someone on set who spotted that the boat’s captain was promoted and then demoted during the series?
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As I understand it, 'Vigil' is the name of the submarine in the first series. How does that translate to the second series about the BAF (that's British Air Force, in case you're wondering)?
It's a detective story, with heavy clunky emphasis on the morals of killing people with drones (inset smarmy unlikeable chap trying to sell them to foreigners here). Subtle it isn't. Having watched Shetland before it where it took ages for anything to happen (much more realistic for police work) the amount that happened in an hour in Ep1 was ridiculous really. But then it's entertainment so the more booms, jump scares, near death situations they can cram in, the better, I guess.........
A drone that small, that can withstand machine gun fire and has zero apparent recoil from firing its own machine gun? I think not!
It's a detective story, with heavy clunky emphasis on the morals of killing people with drones (inset smarmy unlikeable chap trying to sell them to foreigners here). Subtle it isn't. Having watched Shetland before it where it took ages for anything to happen (much more realistic for police work) the amount that happened in an hour in Ep1 was ridiculous really. But then it's entertainment so the more booms, jump scares, near death situations they can cram in, the better, I guess.........
It's a detective story, with heavy clunky emphasis on the morals of killing people with drones (inset smarmy unlikeable chap trying to sell them to foreigners here). Subtle it isn't. Having watched Shetland before it where it took ages for anything to happen (much more realistic for police work) the amount that happened in an hour in Ep1 was ridiculous really. But then it's entertainment so the more booms, jump scares, near death situations they can cram in, the better, I guess.........
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However, if you want something completely surreal, try "The Kings Guard " on C5....the content is a cross between " Monty Python " and "Blackadder ", except, it's not supposed to be a comedy.
Amongst the little gems so far...the wearing of circus clown slippers in the Mess / not permitted to bring ones dog into the Mess if belonging to one Regt, but ok if with another. A lady tank driver trainee who grazed a tree whilst parking it...who would ever have known the Army were so eco minded with tanks and trees...albeit showing an Ajax was possibly not a wise move.
The last episode was hilarious...and inspection where somebody "terribly important " appeared to have, what in different circumstances would be called a boot fetish, plus people walking around with riding crops under their arm...but, the best bit was sir being shown how to stow his sword with the helpful advice about "not wanting to stab the horse "...the horse wasn't interviewed...unfortunately.
For those who think "Vigil " is dire, and have been critical of recent programmes involving the RAF, try not to laugh and vomit at the same time watching the Army doing anything but promote itself as a career....well unless you actually like inane and archaic BS and ceremonial of course.
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No, you're quite wrong. As a group infantry are still called infantry. It is individuals who are now called infanteers rather than infantrymen, understandably as women are now recruited. I thought the two females who graduated from the course featured were very impressive.
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Desperately woke effort imo.
Predictable script , poor editing and awful cinematography , the lighting is akin to a school play.
We have a Sapphic / Bi leading lady with a pregnant girlfriend .. ? Achillean boys who are afraid of the consequences in a Gulf State. To round things off we only need the rather”abrupt take no prisoners “ female squadron leader to come out as trans .. and we have a full set .
I haven’t mentioned the acting , that would be unfair as many have said mere. Tv entertainment , the military aspect is secondary .
Predictable script , poor editing and awful cinematography , the lighting is akin to a school play.
We have a Sapphic / Bi leading lady with a pregnant girlfriend .. ? Achillean boys who are afraid of the consequences in a Gulf State. To round things off we only need the rather”abrupt take no prisoners “ female squadron leader to come out as trans .. and we have a full set .
I haven’t mentioned the acting , that would be unfair as many have said mere. Tv entertainment , the military aspect is secondary .
Me too ! poor K and C performing his usual über man of the people persona
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Amongst the little gems so far...the wearing of circus clown slippers in the Mess / not permitted to bring ones dog into the Mess if belonging to one Regt, but ok if with another.
Unlike the RAF, who having only be around for just over 100 years have some strange habits.
K and C has never heard the “ Afghan bees “
those of you who were there will know .
The point of all this so called bs and ceremony is bonding ! you fight for your regiment, your company and in OZ , Mateship !
those of you who were there will know .
The point of all this so called bs and ceremony is bonding ! you fight for your regiment, your company and in OZ , Mateship !