Vigil (BBC 1 - 2023)
I’m surprised there’s been nothing about this…so far! And, for our non-BBC-watching denizens it does have ‘some’ aviation content, as, according to the Radio Times it is set within the ‘British Air Force’ (sic)…whatever that is!!!
But, to be honest, I’m not really able to comment as I only lasted 10 minutes…and that was nine minutes too long!!! https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies2/eusa_wall.gif I thought it was execrable; from the ‘acting’, to the stilted dialogue, to the scenario, and, even the uniforms - just what was the ‘cap badge’ worn by the Wg Cdr in the opening scenes?!? :ooh: ‘Not for you, James’, I thought as I turned over to BBC4 to watch a fascinating 1985 ‘Omnibus’ documentary about the recording of ‘West Side Story’ with Bernstein conducting…and thus was my equilibrium rebalanced!!! |
So just what is the agenda here ? The first series attempted to place the Royal Navy in a bad light and now they seem determined to do the same with the Royal Air Force. No apparent respect from the two ‘policewomen’ towards the service personnel and of course most of the woke boxes were ticked off in the first few minutes. It is the BBC of course so not totally unexpected !
I had to calm myself down with an episode of ‘All Creatures Great and Small’ ! |
I had mentally timetabled this for Sunday night viewing, but in the end I couldn't be bothered.
I watched the first series and it tried my patience a little. The basic premise was actually quite intriguing - a police officer carrying out a murder investigation on a nuclear submarine in which she had questionable jurisdiction and limited communication with the outside world. But the way in which she was able to move around the submarine as if she owned it and in which the crew were increasingly willing to submit to her authority just stretched credibility to breaking point. And as beamer noted the box ticking was just tiresome. Nothing I've heard about Series 2 suggests to me that it will be any improvement. |
Members of Joe Public may be completely oblivious to some of the inaccuracies, but for anyone even remotely associated with the military, it is pure cringe. Sometimes shows are so bad, they are good. This is so bad; it's just...bad.
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What is it with the cap badges and wings? Is it just ignorance or are they suggesting a different organisation to the RAF?
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Originally Posted by beamer
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So just what is the agenda here ? The first series attempted to place the Royal Navy in a bad light and now they seem determined to do the same with the Royal Air Force. No apparent respect from the two ‘policewomen’ towards the service personnel and of course most of the woke boxes were ticked off in the first few minutes. It is the BBC of course so not totally unexpected !
I had to calm myself down with an episode of ‘All Creatures Great and Small’ ! Any vets around that could tell us if All Creatures Great and Small is technically accurate? |
Nothing on TV is as it seems……… especially sky news and their reporters.
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Around 2017 the BBC (I think) ran a TV mini-series "The Last Post", set during the rundown of British involvement in Yemen/Aden. Criticism of the plot, characterisation, regiments, etc, reflected that of Vigil, but I notice IMDB states in particular that "The BBC production crew was unable to obtain permission for the British Ministry of Defense (sic) to use the proper RMP crest for the production. They had to design a new crest that was at least 35% different from the real one".
Haven't seen Vigil 2.0, but I assume "British Navy" recruits from the same demographic as "London Police". |
It is a fictional murder mystery that uses topical interest in military drones and AI as a background. That's all. I don't understand why this thread is even here.
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I'm afraid I have more bad news - Wudyan isn't a real country, either. :O
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Wadya mean - it isn't?
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Originally Posted by DuncanDoenitz
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Around 2017 the BBC (I think) ran a TV mini-series "The Last Post", set during the rundown of British involvement in Yemen/Aden. Criticism of the plot, characterisation, regiments, etc, reflected that of Vigil, but I notice IMDB states in particular that "The BBC production crew was unable to obtain permission for the British Ministry of Defense (sic) to use the proper RMP crest for the production. They had to design a new crest that was at least 35% different from the real one".
Haven't seen Vigil 2.0, but I assume "British Navy" recruits from the same demographic as "London Police". |
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Originally Posted by Timelord
(Post 11554863)
Ah, OK, that explains a lot. It’s an Intellectual Property thing. Actually, as a drama, I thought it was OK.
NEO |
Originally Posted by Timelord
(Post 11554799)
What is it with the cap badges and wings? Is it just ignorance or are they suggesting a different organisation to the RAF?
CG |
Originally Posted by TURIN
(Post 11554809)
The fact that these programs tend to ignore basic levels of detail suggests that either they are ignoring the advice from researchers or they're really just not bothered.
CG |
Per angusta ad augusta…?
I gave up Latin at school over 45 years ago so I’m a little rusty… google translate struggled with this too but came up with ‘through difficulties to August’… I assume they went with a motto that looked about right rather than one that made any sense? Not watched it yet, we’re still on series 1. Yes, it’s hokum and you have to ignore the inaccuracies (I’ve never spent much time on a sub except for the odd visit and I can spot a load of them) but as drama it’s entertaining enough. You do though have to question the sense in selecting a DCI who’s recently undergone enormous trauma, losing her fiancée in a tragic accident in a sinking car from which she barely escaped with her stepdaughter (spoiler alert) and is on antidepressants for extreme anxiety & claustrophobia, for a job on a submarine…! |
Originally Posted by Ken Scott
(Post 11554888)
You do though have to question the sense in selecting a DCI who’s recently undergone enormous trauma, losing her fiancée in a tragic accident in a sinking car from which she barely escaped with her stepdaughter (spoiler alert) and is on antidepressants for extreme anxiety & claustrophobia, for a job on a submarine…!
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Are we allowed to know if the "drones" accurately portray the capabilities of the real thing or is that poetic licence as well?
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Originally Posted by VictorGolf
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Are we allowed to know if the "drones" accurately portray the capabilities of the real thing or is that poetic licence as well?
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