Gaza Air War
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Israeli press conference ongoing on the explosion - following highlights.
Explosion was in the car park, not the hospital, and there are no bomb craters or associated damage. It was not a aircraft bomb. IR and visual photos of the area.
Radar trace of rockets fired from behind the hospital towards Israel with misfires which hit the hospital area.
Third party videos showing the misfires and debris falling on the hospital area.
Radio/telephone intercepts of conversation between Hamas stating that it was a misfire of a missile fired from the cemetery behind the hospital.
Seems quite comprehensive.
Explosion was in the car park, not the hospital, and there are no bomb craters or associated damage. It was not a aircraft bomb. IR and visual photos of the area.
Radar trace of rockets fired from behind the hospital towards Israel with misfires which hit the hospital area.
Third party videos showing the misfires and debris falling on the hospital area.
Radio/telephone intercepts of conversation between Hamas stating that it was a misfire of a missile fired from the cemetery behind the hospital.
Seems quite comprehensive.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Reference the RAF evacuation flights shown earlier.
POLITICO:
The Foreign Office Tuesday night briefed that 900 British citizens have now been flown out of Israel, with all those who registered as wishing to leave allocated seats. The booking portal will close at 10 a.m. U.K. time, and nationals who wish to fly have been told to prepare to travel in the next 24 hours.
POLITICO:
The Foreign Office Tuesday night briefed that 900 British citizens have now been flown out of Israel, with all those who registered as wishing to leave allocated seats. The booking portal will close at 10 a.m. U.K. time, and nationals who wish to fly have been told to prepare to travel in the next 24 hours.
Perhaps you would care to comment on this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67133803
or this
https://www.chicagotribune.com/natio...q2q-story.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67133803
or this
https://www.chicagotribune.com/natio...q2q-story.html
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What is it about this conflict that removes people’s ability to think critically or to see both sides of a dispute?
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To me it is simple. If the images of IAF F-16s carrying racks of dumb bombs are true and they are bombing built up areas then that is bombing for effect rather than precision and that equals indiscriminate killing. Yes the bad guys were guilty of exactly that, but that is no reason to emulate it in spades. A professional military is supposed to be better than that.
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Listening to some supposed “Expert War Reporters” last night:
”The reported blast was too large to be a missile, It must have been a bomb.”
My thought:
If the missile launches “normally” it will most likely impact with only the explosive warhead charge on board.
However if it face-plants immediately after launch there may be considerable amounts of yet unburnt propellant ( fuel) still in the rocket tube.
When the warhead detonates the remaining propellant will most likely sympathetically explode causing much additional fire and shrapnel from the missile tube to cover the area.
Unfortunately the chances of a fair and impartial investigation are slim to nil.
I am sure some IAF bomb debris from elsewhere is being spread in the area even as I type this.
”The First Casualty is Truth”
”The reported blast was too large to be a missile, It must have been a bomb.”
My thought:
If the missile launches “normally” it will most likely impact with only the explosive warhead charge on board.
However if it face-plants immediately after launch there may be considerable amounts of yet unburnt propellant ( fuel) still in the rocket tube.
When the warhead detonates the remaining propellant will most likely sympathetically explode causing much additional fire and shrapnel from the missile tube to cover the area.
Unfortunately the chances of a fair and impartial investigation are slim to nil.
I am sure some IAF bomb debris from elsewhere is being spread in the area even as I type this.
”The First Casualty is Truth”
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Foreign Office has just devised against any travel to Lebanon and for all Britons in Lebanon to leave immediately whilst means are available.
I presume they have intelligence on future activity.
Now that evacuation from Israel is complete I presume, if clearance can be obtained, the C-17s/A-400Ms may be doing the same from Beirut….
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/lebanon
I presume they have intelligence on future activity.
Now that evacuation from Israel is complete I presume, if clearance can be obtained, the C-17s/A-400Ms may be doing the same from Beirut….
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/lebanon
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Foreign Office has just devised against any travel to Lebanon and for all Britons in Lebanon to leave immediately whilst means are available.
I presume they have intelligence on future activity.
Now that evacuation from Israel is complete I presume, if clearance can be obtained, the C-17s/A-400Ms may be doing the same from Beirut….
I presume they have intelligence on future activity.
Now that evacuation from Israel is complete I presume, if clearance can be obtained, the C-17s/A-400Ms may be doing the same from Beirut….
Now that evacuation from Israel is complete I presume, if clearance can be obtained, the C-17s/A-400Ms may be doing the same from Beirut….
Listening to some supposed “Expert War Reporters” last night:
”The reported blast was too large to be a missile, It must have been a bomb.”
My thought:
If the missile launches “normally” it will most likely impact with only the explosive warhead charge on board.
However if it face-plants immediately after launch there may be considerable amounts of yet unburnt propellant ( fuel) still in the rocket tube.
When the warhead detonates the remaining propellant will most likely sympathetically explode causing much additional fire and shrapnel from the missile tube to cover the area.
Unfortunately the chances of a fair and impartial investigation are slim to nil.
I am sure some IAF bomb debris from elsewhere is being spread in the area even as I type this.
”The First Casualty is Truth”
”The reported blast was too large to be a missile, It must have been a bomb.”
My thought:
If the missile launches “normally” it will most likely impact with only the explosive warhead charge on board.
However if it face-plants immediately after launch there may be considerable amounts of yet unburnt propellant ( fuel) still in the rocket tube.
When the warhead detonates the remaining propellant will most likely sympathetically explode causing much additional fire and shrapnel from the missile tube to cover the area.
Unfortunately the chances of a fair and impartial investigation are slim to nil.
I am sure some IAF bomb debris from elsewhere is being spread in the area even as I type this.
”The First Casualty is Truth”
Listening to some supposed “Expert War Reporters” last night:
”The reported blast was too large to be a missile, It must have been a bomb.”
My thought:
If the missile launches “normally” it will most likely impact with only the explosive warhead charge on board.
However if it face-plants immediately after launch there may be considerable amounts of yet unburnt propellant ( fuel) still in the rocket tube.
When the warhead detonates the remaining propellant will most likely sympathetically explode causing much additional fire and shrapnel from the missile tube to cover the area.
Unfortunately the chances of a fair and impartial investigation are slim to nil.
I am sure some IAF bomb debris from elsewhere is being spread in the area even as I type this.
”The First Casualty is Truth”
”The reported blast was too large to be a missile, It must have been a bomb.”
My thought:
If the missile launches “normally” it will most likely impact with only the explosive warhead charge on board.
However if it face-plants immediately after launch there may be considerable amounts of yet unburnt propellant ( fuel) still in the rocket tube.
When the warhead detonates the remaining propellant will most likely sympathetically explode causing much additional fire and shrapnel from the missile tube to cover the area.
Unfortunately the chances of a fair and impartial investigation are slim to nil.
I am sure some IAF bomb debris from elsewhere is being spread in the area even as I type this.
”The First Casualty is Truth”
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The U.S. State Department has now followed the UK Foreign Office and is telling all Americans in Lebanon to prepare to leave the country and is also evacuating the families of government staff and non-emergency personnel from their embassy.
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I assume the pipe would be used to contain solid chemical propellant. .
Should the fuel detonate you would have a heck of a pipe bomb. Large shrapnel everywhere especially if the detonation occurred just above ground when the warhead exploded. Small crater…big damage.
Sadly there is no evidence anyone can produce that would change some peoples belief that the weapon was anything but an IAF Bomb aimed deliberately at the hospital. Much like the folks who believe and will continue to believe that the 2020 US election was stolen no matter what evidence to the contrary is produced.