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Old 29th Aug 2023, 16:18
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Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY
A thoroughly enjoyable episode.

Only question it raises for me is why we subject the troops to coach travel to Brize.
Do we not have an effective transport fleet that could do the task in a fraction of the time?
We deployed to Bardufoss and a Herc came to Colt to pick us up, we didn't trog half way across the country to get to Lyneham.
In the mid-1970s I and several others was detatched to Machrihanish from Lyneham, for an exercise. We travelled by RAF MT coach via a night stop at RAF Turnhouse, almost a 24 hour journey. On arrival there were three C-130s on the pan.

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So his past time/favourite sport is Volley Ball, not his trade, just to avoid confusion.. But his actual trade is anyone of the above recognisable ones!?! Or indeed, perhaps PTI? I sense, as so often, a defensive reaction as if I've question the man's macho credentials. 1991 eh? I suspect RAF Police/Firefighters/Gunners and many more have responded to many horrific crashes, both before and since.

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Groundcrew nickname for them. I can name all the other nick names for the other ground trades as well if you wish. Even the degorary ones for aircraft electricians. I was refering to the time I saw them do their primary task and I did like all the others around me, put in a witness statement of what I saw. Seeing they were OC 1(F) and a few of his pilots, I assume my statement was lowest to be regarded. I met the OC 1(F) after he retired and was working for FRA. In conversation the hurricane came up and I mentioned what I said when the Hurricane cartwheel in "Bolloxs! He's crashed!" A very lucky escape indeed.
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Surely the trade group for volleyball player is F-14 Pilot/RIO?
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Old 29th Aug 2023, 16:25
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That was worth watching. Out of interest, does anybody know how many programmes are in the series ?

The SWO came across as being somebody representative of the current Air Force, the days of his power crazed predecessors having long since gone.

The "problem ", as has already been mentioned, is, that daily life on a Station is pretty mundane ...usually only enlivened when cock ups occur and even then these tend to be localised, not Station wide. Hence it's difficult to present this fact as being representative of the RAF for a television series per se when "action" attracts viewers for obvious reasons.

Thus far, a well edited programme

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Old 29th Aug 2023, 16:26
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Surely the trade group for volleyball player is F-14 Pilot/WSO?
This is a documentary, not a Hollywood Blockbuster.
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Old 29th Aug 2023, 16:33
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That was worth watching. Out of interest, does anybody know how many programmes are in the series ?

The SWO came across as being somebody representative of the current Air Force, the days of his power crazed predecessors having long since gone.

The "problem ", as has already been mentioned, is, that daily life on a Station is pretty mundane ...usually only enlivened when cock ups occur and even then these tend to be localised, not Station wide. Hence it's difficult to present this fact as being representative of the RAF for a television series per se when "action" attracts viewers for obvious reasons.

Thus far, a well edited programme
SWOs are still SWOs and you cross them at your peril. TG8 was always a good pool for them, especially Rock Apes. My last SWOs were always Gunners. The two last Colt ones were firm but fair.
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That was worth watching. Out of interest, does anybody know how many programmes are in the series ?
There are six programmes in the series. Next week (3/6) features some maritime stuff with the P-8A's according to the programme guide.
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Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim
SWOs are still SWOs and you cross them at your peril. TG8 was always a good pool for them, especially Rock Apes. My last SWOs were always Gunners. The two last Colt ones were firm but fair.
Was once 'volunteered' to work in the Colt Guardroom for a couple of weeks because they were short of a JNCO. Meant working with the SWO every day and it was no problem at all - even enjoyable in a way.
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Originally Posted by Video Mixdown
There are six programmes in the series. Next week (3/6) features some maritime stuff with the P-8A's according to the programme guide.
“This week, the Poseidon crews face the DCS challenge.”
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There are six programmes in the series. Next week (3/6) features some maritime stuff with the P-8A's according to the programme guide.
The pie's the limit....?
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Old 29th Aug 2023, 18:04
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Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim
Groundcrew nickname for them. I can name all the other nick names for the other ground trades as well if you wish. Even the degorary ones for aircraft electricians. I was refering to the time I saw them do their primary task and I did like all the others around me, put in a witness statement of what I saw. Seeing they were OC 1(F) and a few of his pilots, I assume my statement was lowest to be regarded. I met the OC 1(F) after he retired and was working for FRA. In conversation the hurricane came up and I mentioned what I said when the Hurricane cartwheel in "Bolloxs! He's crashed!" A very lucky escape indeed.
I'll stand corrected, I've heard a shedload of nick names for serivce trades, Plumber/Armourer, Grease Monkey/Engine Fitter, Rigger/Airframe Fitter, Sparky/Communications in any capacity, Snow Drops/Police, Rock Apes/RAF Regiment, Scopie/Aerospace Systems Operator (Now Airspace Battle Management Specialist or something, but Volley Ball Player is a surprise new one, any idea how long its been around?

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Old 29th Aug 2023, 18:14
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Originally Posted by Finningley Boy
I'll stand corrected, I've heard a shedload of nick names for serivce trades, Plumber/Armourer, Grease Monkey/Engine Fitter, Rigger/Airframe Fitter, Sparky/Communications in any capacity, Snow Drops/Police, Rock Apes/RAF Regiment, Scopie/Aerospace Systems Operator (Now Airspace Battle Management Specialist or something, but Volley Ball Player is a surprise new one, any idea how long its been around?

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Heard it at Lossie on my first tour I think. Was around the same time the Leckies got the dog botheration nick name. Sooties, Fairies for the various aircraft electronic trades that ended up as avionics in the late 80s and of course includes the dog botherers now. What do the Mechanical and leckies/fairies call themselves nowadays? Can us old boys be enlightened or is it best left in house? Of course all technical trade on aircraft now are split brains in trade boundaries.

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At the risk of looking like an idiot, why are armourers called "plumbers"? I've never got that one.
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Old 29th Aug 2023, 19:12
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At the risk of looking like an idiot, why are armourers called "plumbers"? I've never got that one.
I’m guessing it’s connected to lead……
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volleyball player = fireman

Walk around any fire section and there is a volleyball net.
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Old 29th Aug 2023, 21:36
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Originally Posted by minigundiplomat
volleyball player = fireman

Walk around any fire section and there is a volleyball net.
Aaaah! I get it now, certainly in the USA Firefighters after often portrayed, in the popular media, playing Basket Ball or indeed Volley Ball while waiting for a Shout!

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Old 29th Aug 2023, 21:38
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Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
At the risk of looking like an idiot, why are armourers called "plumbers"? I've never got that one.
It may be something to do with pipes in relation to gun barrels? Anyone else??

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Old 29th Aug 2023, 21:49
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Originally Posted by 212man
I’m guessing it’s connected to lead……
......Wrongly, unless lead should be read as lead (as in leaders!)

Try; pipes, tubes, barrels....
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Originally Posted by superplum
......Wrongly, unless lead should be read as lead (as in leaders!)

Try; pipes, tubes, barrels....
well, there were two obvious routes - the pipes or the lead (as in lead tipped rounds).
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Old 29th Aug 2023, 23:48
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I think he is comparing with the states, where AMC CRAF fleet be it American Airlines, Amerije,t Delta, Sun Country (several years back, Sun Country 737NG turned up at Mildenhall!), National Airlines (does the Patriot Express now in and out of the Hall) Omni etc etc goes around individual bases (Air Force, Army, NAvy, Marine Corps) to pick up and return units that have deployed out of CONUS.

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