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On the 30th of May 1973 the First RAF Jaguar was delivered to the OCU and so began

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How about that bizarre system of keeping the screen clean, OOPS Code AH?
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Originally Posted by Akrotiri bad boy
How about that bizarre system of keeping the screen clean, OOPS Code AH?
Rain X coat every 14 days. OOPS B
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips
" And with the minimum of manpower involved, it was very low manpower intensive compared to some types.... ahh many an hour at cease flying wandering round the HAS's and shoving a borosope up the arse end of each engine...

Ahh yes, the early cockpits, the GR1A ish, it looked like it had British designers fingers all over it, here is one I took earlier."

You missed out the delights of an intake / comp inspection where size, as they say, did matter.

That, and the BCV's and the "it looks perfectly satisfactory on my drawing board ! "..British design philosophy.
half was French.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Raf T bird spinning at 1:30 ish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycJ1m0PRYEM
this episode is not really relevant to this thread as it is all about spinning on the ETPS course ETPS NEVER SPan the Jaguar and flew all manoeuvres with care to avoid departure; I used the mantra 8 alpha is life because most departures were caused by coarse lateral stick inputs at 8 alpha or more. I never did have one depart on me in flight testing and i did some wacky things in strange stores configurations. I do appear briefly in that linked video clip in some of the classroom scenes, and spinning the Hunter was definitely one of the highlights of the course
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Some one else that was at Lossie in mid 1973 confirmed that the first armourers course on Jags used XX111 at Lossie to do the first seat training removals and refits. The MP had glaring errors having taken a Mk4 seat MP and not changing stuff required for a mark 9. Aircraft was delivered to Lossie on the 30th of May.
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Diff Tail Trim, my photo of the GR1 cockpit, I wondered if it was a A'ish as when I was on them it didn't originally have the small panel Chaff / Flare panel under the Camera though they were fitted later during my tour, and I cannot remember the big lump on the top right of the hud on the upper coaming with the black yellow button.

We did have the underwing sidewinders though on the inboard pylons I think.. for a period.


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Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim
Some one else that was at Lossie in mid 1973 confirmed that the first armourers course on Jags used XX111 at Lossie to do the first seat training removals and refits. The MP had glaring errors having taken a Mk4 seat MP and not changing stuff required for a mark 9. Aircraft was delivered to Lossie on the 30th of May.
Alas, some time later, a few things were "forgotten " shall we say.

A seat was changed during the week, but, the aircraft sat on the ground in the comfort of a HAS until, one sunny Friday early evening, came the requirement for a ground run for me to do a leak check on the air cond.

My mate starts up and..woosh ! great sheets of flame, very impressive in a HAS, followed by a "you couldn't make it up" saga.

It appeared, that, to help the removal / refit, they had moved those two levers fully fwd and, the fuel system worked perfectly !.and had been doing for a few days....the dry cycle on No 2 produced a lovely cloud of misty fuel....enter our Flt Sgt, ex V's and a top man, unfazed by anything / body, who calmly rolls a cigarette ....this is outside I should stress...just in time for the wail of sirens, some 30 mins after the initial fire alarm was triggered. Enter the Plod.

Our hero emerges, produces notebook and asks what happened..."advised " not much, just a hiccup...Plod asks if we are talking criminal damage here with these two airmen....not a rank tab in sight on either of us btw....response from FS was "why don't you piss off son "...Plod, deeply offended, asks mate to repeat what he's just been told...food and drink to a Yorkshireman who didn't like plods who says " if you don't f$%k off, I'll deck yer ! "...plod says I heard that to me and am a witness !....nope says I because I'll kick the sh$%t out of you on the way down.

Plod makes lots of mutterings and disappears....nothing further heard.

We then did the run, and retired to the Mally and Chicken Inn.
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No-one has yet mentioned the joy of fitting the drag chute.............

Deploying the chute was an absolute "must avoid" on a land away requiring a pilot turnaround. Thus most land away landings were completed using aerodynamic braking and absolutely under no conditions other that dire stress was the chute deployed. Great benefit of the nice lengthy American runways!!

My recollection tells me that to fit a replacement chute required a stepladder, at least three arms and four hands, some considerable swearing and the opportunity to provide a great deal of amusement for anyone watching.

Groundcrew seemed to cope with little bother, but pilots..................!!!

If a chute replacement had been done during a pilot turnaround, the ultimate challenge on landing back home was to deploy the chute to see what happened. Again my memory tells me that quite often the whole chute in its container would land on the runway in a lump with no hint of deploying properly to do the job for which it was designed. Not a chute problem, but a "pilot turnaround" glitch.

Great fun though!!
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Here's a SOAF Jaguar strutting its stuff with a bit of wadi bashing in 1987. Pilot: Ian Ord

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Originally Posted by ex-fast-jets
No-one has yet mentioned the joy of fitting the drag chute.............



If a chute replacement had been done during a pilot turnaround, the ultimate challenge on landing back home was to deploy the chute to see what happened. Again my memory tells me that quite often the whole chute in its container would land on the runway in a lump with no hint of deploying properly to do the job for which it was designed. Not a chute problem, but a "pilot turnaround" glitch.

Great fun though!!
Hence the little hole in the port aft stabilator edge so you could put the pip pin in it when fitting the chute, if the pip pin was still there the can hadn't been secured. The expediant way to get a rogue noddy cap to fit on, was to beat the shit out of it to get it roughly back into shape prior to fitting.
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Wadi bashing

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Here's a SOAF Jaguar strutting its stuff with a bit of wadi bashing in 1987. Pilot: Ian Ord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4wRE03Xmvk
Almost exactly one year ago I flew down that very wadi. I only had one Adour propelling me though.

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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Hence the little hole in the port aft stabilator edge so you could put the pip pin in it when fitting the chute, if the pip pin was still there the can hadn't been secured. The expediant way to get a rogue noddy cap to fit on, was to beat the shit out of it to get it roughly back into shape prior to fitting.
Crew had to fit the landaway soft chute. A trauma to be sure.
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Speaking as a pilot Id rather have run off the end of a runway than have to try to pack that chute on a landaway.

In fact Im sure there are several who will remember incidents of Jaguars returning from landaways where the chute was used and then, upon streaming on return to home base, deposited a metal can on the runway complete with contained chute.

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Beating the sh1t out of the Noddy cap? So that's why I spent an inordinate amount of time in the OCU riggery stitching the damn things back together again.
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Originally Posted by Akrotiri bad boy
Beating the sh1t out of the Noddy cap? So that's why I spent an inordinate amount of time in the OCU riggery stitching the damn things back together again.
I had to do that myself sometimes, demeaning work for a sootie
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Speaking as a pilot Id rather have run off the end of a runway than have to try to pack that chute on a landaway.

In fact Im sure there are several who will remember incidents of Jaguars returning from landaways where the chute was used and then, upon streaming on return to home base, deposited a metal can on the runway complete with contained chute.

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I am the last British bloke to pack a chute being pulled on a Jag. Time before it pulled out and didn't stay with the airframe. Other time, pulled and didn't open. But stayed attached. In the can too long.
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We had one pull itself on the range, much to the pilots surprise.
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Even worse

I have an Omani friend who had a brake chute self deploy during the finals turn. Now that really was a surprise!

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Short landing run I guess.............
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Short landing run I guess.............
Not for him or his aircraft. His aircraft landed in a ball of flames and he was dragged across the airfield in his chute.

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