Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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A rather good interview regarding tanks in use in Ukraine including western armour.
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I think where the confusion is coming from is they have destroyed 2 systems one mentioned and one in Crimea, the complete systems are $600 million, so $1.2 for both.
it’s not just the launchers but all the other junk, radars etc.
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/09/...to-hit-russia/
Still the Russians do get a lot of bang for their bucks, judging from the explosions when they are taken out.
it’s not just the launchers but all the other junk, radars etc.
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/09/...to-hit-russia/
Still the Russians do get a lot of bang for their bucks, judging from the explosions when they are taken out.
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New delivery of Gepards to Ukraine, supposed ex Qatar, God knows where they found the paint.
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The dropping of mines with shock sensors.
Beware graphic images of wounded soldiers legs, just a quoted link only, choice is at your discretion, just a fair bit of blood.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...with-sea-mines
UK says Russia plotting to sabotage Ukrainian grain tankers with sea mines
Britain has accused Russia of plotting to sabotage civilian tankers loaded with Ukrainian grain by planting sea mines on the approaches to the country’s Black Sea ports.
Based on what it said was declassified intelligence, the UK said Russia did not want to directly attack merchant ships using Ukraine’s newly created humanitarian corridor with missiles, but instead try to destroy them covertly.
Russia would then seek to blame Ukraine for the loss of any shipping in an attempt to evade responsibility, the British Foreign Office continued, and the UK said it was going public in order to deter Moscow from carrying out the plan.
James Cleverly, the UK foreign secretary, accused Russia of the “pernicious targeting” of civilian shipping: “The world is watching – and we see right through Russia’s cynical attempts to lay blame on Ukraine for their attacks.”
UK says Russia plotting to sabotage Ukrainian grain tankers with sea mines
Britain has accused Russia of plotting to sabotage civilian tankers loaded with Ukrainian grain by planting sea mines on the approaches to the country’s Black Sea ports.
Based on what it said was declassified intelligence, the UK said Russia did not want to directly attack merchant ships using Ukraine’s newly created humanitarian corridor with missiles, but instead try to destroy them covertly.
Russia would then seek to blame Ukraine for the loss of any shipping in an attempt to evade responsibility, the British Foreign Office continued, and the UK said it was going public in order to deter Moscow from carrying out the plan.
James Cleverly, the UK foreign secretary, accused Russia of the “pernicious targeting” of civilian shipping: “The world is watching – and we see right through Russia’s cynical attempts to lay blame on Ukraine for their attacks.”
The Kremlin says naval base plans under the defence ministry
Following reports that Russia signed a deal for a permanent naval base on the Black Sea coast of the breakaway Georgian region of Abkhazia, the Kremlin said such issues were under the defence ministry and made no further comment.Earlier on Thursday, the Izvestiya newspaper quoted the leader of the breakaway region, Aslan Bzhania, as saying, “We have signed an agreement, and in the near future, there will be a permanent base of the Russian Navy in the Ochamchira district”.
“This is all aimed at increasing the level of defence capability of both Russia and Abkhazia, and this kind of interaction will continue,” he said.
Russia-Ukraine war live: ‘Agreement signed’ for naval base in Abkhazia | Russia-Ukraine war News | Al Jazeera
9:10 GMT Al Jazeera
Being pushed down the coast from Sochi?
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Soviet Caucasus map - Abkhazia - Wikipedia
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That in a word tells you they have more or less given up on Sevastopol as a safe harbour and their future in Crimea, it does make you wonder if they truly believe they can hold it.
It also will allow them to be closer to the straits to control Ukrainian shipping in and out of the Black sea?
It also will allow them to be closer to the straits to control Ukrainian shipping in and out of the Black sea?
That in a word tells you they have more or less given up on Sevastopol as a safe harbour and their future in Crimea, it does make you wonder if they truly believe they can hold it.
It also will allow them to be closer to the straits to control Ukrainian shipping in and out of the Black sea?
It also will allow them to be closer to the straits to control Ukrainian shipping in and out of the Black sea?
That base will be about as far away from the straits as its possible to get in the Black Sea. Its over a 1000km from the straits, and over 200km further away than Novorossiysk is.
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Where the 1.4 billion dollar price for the S-400 Triumph system comes from
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/ssu-...696414458.html
And when you look at the size of the system below it could be conceivable, 8 launchers and two radars plus all the usual gubbins that goes along with that.
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https://www.txtreport.com/news/2023-...yEpfanqgp.html
Ukrainian Security Service drones struck the Russian Triumph near Belgorod last night. The cost of such an air defense system amounts to 1.2 billion dollars, reports sources in the SSU.
According to our sources, SSU drones attacked the strategic S-400 Triumph air defense system last night near the Russian Belgorod. The cost of such a system is 1.2 billion dollars.
According to our sources, SSU drones attacked the strategic S-400 Triumph air defense system last night near the Russian Belgorod. The cost of such a system is 1.2 billion dollars.
And when you look at the size of the system below it could be conceivable, 8 launchers and two radars plus all the usual gubbins that goes along with that.
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https://www.txtreport.com/news/2023-...yEpfanqgp.html
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Russian and Belarussian fortifications and defences built up since Feb 2022, that does not remind me of an invading country, rather the opposite..
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...C34.770839&z=6
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...C34.770839&z=6
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Russias planned military spending... I do hope the west is watching this.
but to put that in context
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/thi...nd-on-defense/
but to put that in context
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/thi...nd-on-defense/
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Partisans visiting Russia's new trenches in Crimea, a bucket of petrol and a match would see that lot burn nicely 
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It appears the ASRAAM Supercat British bodge hybrid job is scoring successes, and has been caught on film in action.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ill-in-ukraine
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ill-in-ukraine
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Happy to reveal my complete lack of missile technology knowledge here, but what sort of range impact would 'ground launching' an ASRAAM have? (Considering it's short range already)
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...with-sea-mines
UK says Russia plotting to sabotage Ukrainian grain tankers with sea mines
UK says Russia plotting to sabotage Ukrainian grain tankers with sea mines
One wonders at how the UK know that the Russians are planning to do this.
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