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Old 12th Dec 2022, 21:36
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MiG or Orion

Quality piece of journalism follows. It couldnt have been worse had they shown a picture of a MIG Welder.


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All I can see is a single upside down photo of a Russian fighter, there's no narrative.
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 22:54
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Bottom L H corner of the pic
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Even if it did say MiG 31 it would be wrong.
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Originally Posted by Muddy Paws
Bottom L H corner of the pic
I can only read part of the caption, the rest is cut off.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
I can only read part of the caption, the rest is cut off.
Perrhaps my words misled. My sarcasm referred to the pic used to support the headline and an even more errant caption.
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Perrhaps my words misled. My sarcasm referred to the pic used to support the headline and an even more errant caption.
You have not included the whole of the caption; why are you hiding part of it?
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Blimey this is hard work. The DE headlines say Mig-31 and the photo caption says Norwegian Air Force Orion. What the OP is getting at is it’s neither a Mig-31 or an Orion!
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If you wish to view the original article, see https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...3-orion-latest
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Originally Posted by chevvron
You have not included the whole of the caption; why are you hiding part of it?
It's because he is evil! He is trying to make your brain explode!
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Originally Posted by chevvron
You have not included the whole of the caption; why are you hiding part of it?
I wasn't. The salient point of sloppy article about a Mig 31, was the supporting image of an inverted MiG 29 captioned as an Orion ( cant believe I'm explaining this) However, whilst retrieving it ( just for you) I found that they'd excelled themselves again and modified it as follows: "The Russian MiG-31 was escorted by the reconnaissance aircraft of the Norwegian Air Force 'Orion'"

With such a sloppy teaser i didn't bother with the story, but i expect it involved one aircraft intercepting another.
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Originally Posted by uffington sb
Blimey this is hard work. The DE headlines say Mig-31 and the photo caption says Norwegian Air Force Orion. What the OP is getting at is it’s neither a Mig-31 or an Orion!
Correct, it must be a UAV 'cause it ain't got no cockpit fingy...
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The caption at Post #1 ends with the copyright attribution "(C) Getty", suggesting that it is, indeed, the entirety of the caption (sic, prior to the subsequent revision by DE).

New Sub-thread;
Is Exhibit "A"... a single upside down photo of a Russian fighter", or "a photo of a single upside down Russian fighter".

(Or, indeed, " an anti-clockwise rotated photo of a single Russian fighter in an 87 degree left bank").


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It's a T-64. You can tell by the muzzle brake 2/3 down the barrel and the large space between the 1st and 2nd road wheels.
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Originally Posted by Two's in
It's a T-64. You can tell by the muzzle brake 2/3 down the barrel and the large space between the 1st and 2nd road wheels.
And confirmed by 3/16th rivets on the turret as opposed to the 4/16th rivets seen on the vertical stabiliser of the Su27....
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And confirmed by 3/16th rivets on the turret as opposed to the 4/16th rivets seen on the vertical stabiliser of the Su27....
Good luck trying to draw 4/16th rivets from stores.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
Good luck trying to draw 4/16th rivets from stores.
Give me a sharp enough pencil and high quality paper and I can draw anything!...
I can remeber from recce sessions, how someone always pointed out, smart-aleck like, a differentiation detail,, only discernible from close up, when in reality, we were observing the target from 1/4 mile stand-off and 400' height. Eg, the Mk 1 upper thrunge gusket has two rivets here, while the Mk 2 lower plunge gasket has 4. - the only way to tell the difference from a Soviet Kashin destroyer Mk1 and a Mark 1.002.
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Originally Posted by Two's in
It's a T-64. You can tell by the muzzle brake 2/3 down the barrel and the large space between the 1st and 2nd road wheels.
Wheel space? That’ll be a T-54-55….hat, coat…
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Well, it’s certainly scrambled.
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They forgot to mention that he was flying inverted ‘cos he was going to take a photo of the Orion pilot and give him the bird…….
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