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AR1 12th Dec 2022 21:36

MiG or Orion
 
Quality piece of journalism follows. It couldnt have been worse had they shown a picture of a MIG Welder.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4e683a0401.jpg

chevvron 12th Dec 2022 22:37

All I can see is a single upside down photo of a Russian fighter, there's no narrative.

Muddy Paws 12th Dec 2022 22:54

Bottom L H corner of the pic

Lookleft 13th Dec 2022 03:24

Even if it did say MiG 31 it would be wrong.

chevvron 13th Dec 2022 03:34


Originally Posted by Muddy Paws (Post 11346795)
Bottom L H corner of the pic

I can only read part of the caption, the rest is cut off.

AR1 13th Dec 2022 07:19


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11346856)
I can only read part of the caption, the rest is cut off.

Perrhaps my words misled. My sarcasm referred to the pic used to support the headline and an even more errant caption.

chevvron 13th Dec 2022 09:56


Originally Posted by AR1 (Post 11346909)
Perrhaps my words misled. My sarcasm referred to the pic used to support the headline and an even more errant caption.

You have not included the whole of the caption; why are you hiding part of it?

uffington sb 13th Dec 2022 10:07

Blimey this is hard work. The DE headlines say Mig-31 and the photo caption says Norwegian Air Force Orion. What the OP is getting at is it’s neither a Mig-31 or an Orion!

BEagle 13th Dec 2022 10:12

If you wish to view the original article, see https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...3-orion-latest

Tartiflette Fan 13th Dec 2022 12:05


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11346997)
You have not included the whole of the caption; why are you hiding part of it?

It's because he is evil! He is trying to make your brain explode!

AR1 13th Dec 2022 13:30


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11346997)
You have not included the whole of the caption; why are you hiding part of it?

I wasn't. The salient point of sloppy article about a Mig 31, was the supporting image of an inverted MiG 29 captioned as an Orion ( cant believe I'm explaining this) However, whilst retrieving it ( just for you) I found that they'd excelled themselves again and modified it as follows: "The Russian MiG-31 was escorted by the reconnaissance aircraft of the Norwegian Air Force 'Orion'"

With such a sloppy teaser i didn't bother with the story, but i expect it involved one aircraft intercepting another. :)

NutLoose 13th Dec 2022 16:05


Originally Posted by uffington sb (Post 11347007)
Blimey this is hard work. The DE headlines say Mig-31 and the photo caption says Norwegian Air Force Orion. What the OP is getting at is it’s neither a Mig-31 or an Orion!

Correct, it must be a UAV 'cause it ain't got no cockpit fingy...

DuncanDoenitz 13th Dec 2022 16:30

The caption at Post #1 ends with the copyright attribution "(C) Getty", suggesting that it is, indeed, the entirety of the caption (sic, prior to the subsequent revision by DE).

New Sub-thread;
Is Exhibit "A"... a single upside down photo of a Russian fighter", or "a photo of a single upside down Russian fighter".

(Or, indeed, " an anti-clockwise rotated photo of a single Russian fighter in an 87 degree left bank").



Two's in 13th Dec 2022 20:54

It's a T-64. You can tell by the muzzle brake 2/3 down the barrel and the large space between the 1st and 2nd road wheels.

cynicalint 13th Dec 2022 21:05


Originally Posted by Two's in (Post 11347291)
It's a T-64. You can tell by the muzzle brake 2/3 down the barrel and the large space between the 1st and 2nd road wheels.

And confirmed by 3/16th rivets on the turret as opposed to the 4/16th rivets seen on the vertical stabiliser of the Su27....

DaveReidUK 13th Dec 2022 21:49


Originally Posted by cynicalint (Post 11347296)
And confirmed by 3/16th rivets on the turret as opposed to the 4/16th rivets seen on the vertical stabiliser of the Su27....

Good luck trying to draw 4/16th rivets from stores. :O

cynicalint 13th Dec 2022 22:10


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11347320)
Good luck trying to draw 4/16th rivets from stores. :O

Give me a sharp enough pencil and high quality paper and I can draw anything!...
I can remeber from recce sessions, how someone always pointed out, smart-aleck like, a differentiation detail,, only discernible from close up, when in reality, we were observing the target from 1/4 mile stand-off and 400' height. Eg, the Mk 1 upper thrunge gusket has two rivets here, while the Mk 2 lower plunge gasket has 4. - the only way to tell the difference from a Soviet Kashin destroyer Mk1 and a Mark 1.002.

CyclicRick 14th Dec 2022 06:46


Originally Posted by Two's in (Post 11347291)
It's a T-64. You can tell by the muzzle brake 2/3 down the barrel and the large space between the 1st and 2nd road wheels.

Wheel space? That’ll be a T-54-55….hat, coat…

jolihokistix 14th Dec 2022 07:05

Well, it’s certainly scrambled.

falcon900 14th Dec 2022 08:23

They forgot to mention that he was flying inverted ‘cos he was going to take a photo of the Orion pilot and give him the bird…….


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