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New RAF Uniforms

Old 15th Jun 2022, 08:13
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Is that meant as a negative? Sartorially speaking Iíd rather look French than follow current British trends.

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As I currently work with the French Air and Space Force, I think I am qualified to say that their uniform is no different from our current No 2 uniform, but with different colours and better fit.
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 08:19
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking View Post
A few caveats before I pass judgment.

1. I spend 99.99% of my time at work in a flying suit.

I hate our current scratchy trousers and cheap shirts. None of it fits properly and it looks bargain basement.

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As you spend 99.9% of your time in flying kit, I am guessing that you also havenít bought any blues in a long time. The newer (issue) kit is better than it used to be. Decent quality blues have always been available, you just have to pay for it.
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 08:28
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In 23 years I have never paid for any blue uniform (apart from a new hat). Iíve also not had anything since my initial issue (which still fits) and the updated bits as they have been released.

Aside from Number 1s and 5s I probably havenít worn blues for over ten years. And I havenít worn either of those at all for at least five.

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Old 15th Jun 2022, 09:06
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In 23 years I have never paid for any blue uniform (apart from a new hat). Iíve also not had anything since my initial issue (which still fits) and the updated bits as they have been released.

Aside from Number 1s and 5s I probably havenít worn blues for over ten years. And I havenít worn either of those at all for at least five.

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So you are complaining about kit issued 23 years ago and youíve never needed (or bothered) to buy any better quality uniform?
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 09:23
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Why would anyone in their right mind pay to buy uniform that their employer mandates they should wear? If the RAF couldnít give me blue uniform that fits and is comfortable to wear thatís bad right? Iím not going to pay to get them off the hook.

The images look like a uniform that would probably be more comfortable and accommodating.

None of this changes the fact that I think we should just wear MTP day to day with RAF flashes.

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Old 15th Jun 2022, 09:35
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Originally Posted by Cat Techie View Post
....What is a Mod 90 some will say??
Is that a bit like a 1250 but really poor quality!!
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 09:41
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Bob,for those of us who`ve been out longer than you`ve been `in`,wossa MTP?
I was one once,but things `change`....
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 09:42
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The 1250 credit card format used to self destruct , and the laminated jobby before that used to delaminate, so its obviously up there with the quality standard, what you want is it [email protected] etched into a metal blank.
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 09:44
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Bob,for those of us who`ve been out longer than you`ve been `in`,wossa MTP?
I was one once,but things `change`....
Multi Terrain Pattern as in what was DPM, ie cabbage kit.
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 10:04
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking View Post
Why would anyone in their right mind pay to buy uniform that their employer mandates they should wear? If the RAF couldn’t give me blue uniform that fits and is comfortable to wear that’s bad right? I’m not going to pay to get them off the hook.

The images look like a uniform that would probably be more comfortable and accommodating.

None of this changes the fact that I think we should just wear MTP day to day with RAF flashes.

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It’s a fair point BV and I have never understood why RAF officers have to pay for a uniform we are mandated to wear, except for tradition, and the fact that for all of those 23 years you have been receiving a benefit from the tax man to help pay for that uniform. As I said, colleagues I’ve spoken to, who have used the new ordering system, have said that the newer uniform is better quality and fits better.
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 11:00
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I'd agree with MTP with RAF flash for day to day work. My other thought was a lighter variant of the new RN working uniform. There will be cost and time savings with either of those options, and people may actually want to wear them, rather than the mess in the images on this thread.

If someone thinks that these uniforms will be used as a recruiting tool, I feel they are seriously misguided.
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 14:51
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...With all the Gender neutralising going on....is all this kit 'Unisex' .....?

Seems like a lot of potential for mixing tops / bottoms there - it looks a nightmare to me to keep that lot controlled and people 'uniformally' dressed ......WO's will have a field day!
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 15:29
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I would imagine they are test samples of the short listed designs to see which looks better in the physical form etc and what changes they need to implement.
Then a shorter list will be forthcoming as they address the issues the previous versions brought up, until a final design is selected and then binned due to financial constraints.
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 17:13
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None of this changes the fact that I think we should just wear MTP day to day with RAF flashes.
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And on that point, BV, I totally agree. A fighting Service dressed like RAC Patrolmen (as a Recruiting mate observed) hardly engenders the right mental attitudes. But then I have pontificated on this topic before.
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 17:43
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Agreed, plus you can hide easier from the SWO
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 19:13
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Tax allowance.
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 19:15
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Originally Posted by 622 View Post
...With all the Gender neutralising going on....is all this kit 'Unisex' .....?

Seems like a lot of potential for mixing tops / bottoms there - it looks a nightmare to me to keep that lot controlled and people 'uniformally' dressed ......WO's will have a field day!
Problem if unisex [multisex actually]: too loose in the chest for blokes, too tight in the crutch. No Ball Room as it were.
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 19:40
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What a palava. How about : overalls / flying suits ( plus cold weather additions) , MTP, Number 1s. Simples.
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 20:09
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So is "full webbing" no longer part of the uniform?

. . . like it apparently was during the Battle of Britain
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 20:52
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Nailed it!


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