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Old 10th Aug 2022, 11:33
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Originally Posted by Slow Biker
It’s a special Rock Ape beret.
Surely *all* Rock Apes are special?

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Old 10th Aug 2022, 11:50
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We went through this with wooly poolies, ribbed, not ribbed, V neck or round neck, brevet or not. Wast of money but great for me as i got a free jumper every time it changed and never had to buy one.
More seriously though, almost every photo of RAF personnel has them in combats whether they are in the UK, overseas, hostile environment or not, i hardly see the point of a blue uniform any more.
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Old 10th Aug 2022, 12:21
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Originally Posted by 1771 DELETE
We went through this with wooly poolies, ribbed, not ribbed, V neck or round neck, brevet or not. Wast of money but great for me as i got a free jumper every time it changed and never had to buy one.
More seriously though, almost every photo of RAF personnel has them in combats whether they are in the UK, overseas, hostile environment or not, i hardly see the point of a blue uniform any more.
You're forgetting other controversies with the round neck one. Tie or no tie, collar points in or out, it varied from SWO to SWO.
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Old 10th Aug 2022, 12:30
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[QUOTE=Sigma 09;11275934]Just put union jacks on USAF kit - it always looks cool. I remember being at Red Flag in '78 being totally embarrassed in my issue growbag when all the yanks looked like Tom Cruise. We've always been the scruffs of NATO![/QUOTE

I suspect that a poor comparison with Tom Cruise has/had more to do with our bodies/ hair/ teeth and tans than with our overalls.
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Old 10th Aug 2022, 15:56
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Originally Posted by Union Jack
Surely *all* Rock Apes are special?

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Thread drift but: Indeed, I learnt how professional they are when I was co-located with them on HF field deployments.
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Old 10th Aug 2022, 17:16
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Oh yes!!!!
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Old 10th Aug 2022, 17:47
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We went through this with wooly poolies, ribbed, not ribbed, V neck or round neck, brevet or not.
What has a certificate, licence or diploma got to do with it?







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Old 11th Aug 2022, 07:50
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It's almost as if the same word can mean different things in different languages...
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Old 11th Aug 2022, 08:58
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Originally Posted by Bing
It's almost as if the same word can mean different things in different languages...

Well the wings badge in regs is (for pilot's) referred to specifically as the "Pilot's Flying Badge" or "Badge, Qualification, Pilot" in stores speak. Similar naming conventions apply to all "legacy" aircrew badges (Air Gunner, Loadmaster, etc) though the newer "generic Aircrew" single wing RAF badge is referred to as "Badge, Qualification, Brevet", which is, I suspect, a result of modern repurposing of the word Brevet as the use of language has evolved over time.

The good news is, for this particular measuring contest, it means you're both right....!

Badges of the Royal Air Force (stores guide)
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 20:27
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When you see some of the ideas they are coming out with perhaps they should look at the likes of the Ukrainian military, smart, looks warm and military.




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Old 25th Sep 2022, 21:12
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I shall carry on my own tradition of making it up as I go. 99% grobag n chiphat anyhow. Used to love wearing my tiger scarf as i knew it annoyed the F out of everyone, especially the army!! 1% No1s on remembrance sunday. Some green stuff for ccs or whatever its called now.
I have a loft full of boots, colour= various.

Was once amused by an airman in stores when i enquired about some short sleeve shirts for an impending staff tour. “Should have been given them on initial issue sir”.
I simply didn’t have the energy to explain no such thing existed on my initial issue.
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Old 26th Sep 2022, 06:46
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Originally Posted by Bing
It's almost as if the same word can mean different things in different languages...
The flying badge signifies that the wearer holds a Brevet. The flying badge is awarded at the same time as the Brevet, so when photographs show wings being pinned on at a "Brevet Presentation", then it is easy to see how the two totally different items became mixed up.
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Old 26th Sep 2022, 07:40
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Uniform

I joined the RAF in 1958(boy entrant) during training we had a wooly jacket an trews,shirt was detached collar .After training we were issued with battle dress uniform.All the warm winter clothing was issued in september and boots,all used but cleaned.The only thing I would have changed was the shirt to collar attached.Yes we had a smooth knit Vneck pullover and some time a raincoat was issued.
So why the obsession with redesigning everything?
No camo stuff either,whats that all about??
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Old 26th Sep 2022, 11:30
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It's over 46 years since I drove home and took off my RAF uniform for the last time, so I am somewhat out of date. Quick question - what, if any items of uniform are officers still obliged to purchase, or is it all now stores issue? I seem to recall that my initial uniform allowance was £125 which at 1964 prices was sufficient to buy No I HD, No 2 HD, No 5 HD (mess kit), SD cap, shoes etc. Wouldn't go far now.

I had a chum who was an ensign in the Welsh Guards at around the same time. The system there was that the newly commissioned officer visited the regimental tailor in the company of the adjutant who supervised the fittings. All he had to do was stand there and shut up and act as a human tailor's dummy. He didn't even have to pay - on delivery, the bill (well into four figures even then) was sent to his father!
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TTN … as we were of the same date and place … No. 2 BD was not part of the package, so it was No. 1 HD all the time until you bankrupted yourself replacing it! Fortunately I went to FEAF just in time! I was given one of those V-Force BD jackets, but was told after a week or so to stop wearing it as I was “not entitled .Back to wearing our my No. 1, then … thanks!

BTW, my Initial Allowance went on a car, so I was paying the tailors by instalments for a couple more years! The car was £115!
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Old 26th Sep 2022, 16:17
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Good news is the issue of stable belts to all pers is a priority with the new uniform, WORAF thinks so anyway.... or so rumour mill has it.

That'll keep people in for sure.
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Old 26th Sep 2022, 18:51
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Originally Posted by Wensleydale
The flying badge signifies that the wearer holds a Brevet. The flying badge is awarded at the same time as the Brevet, so when photographs show wings being pinned on at a "Brevet Presentation", then it is easy to see how the two totally different items became mixed up.
Spot on - as a brevet is a licence, a diploma or in this case a certificate 👍
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Old 26th Sep 2022, 20:19
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Good news is the issue of stable belts to all pers is a priority with the new uniform, WORAF thinks so anyway.... or so rumour mill has it.

That'll keep people in for sure.
I bought one at Swinditz and wore it twice, bloody uncomfortable thing, they will be bringing back putees next
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Old 26th Sep 2022, 20:41
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I bought one at Swinditz and wore it twice, bloody uncomfortable thing, they will be bringing back putees next
Navy still wear Puttes. As seen last Monday.
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Old 26th Sep 2022, 21:18
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Navy still wear Puttes. As seen last Monday.
Are they not gaiters? Puttees are cloth bandages to be wound round the calf and secured by a tape, surely.
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