Does Germany need the Bomb ?

[Tartiflette Fan]

Originally Posted by Less Hair

The 2 % GDP defence spending goal was agreed to by Germany and other NATO members before at the Wales and Prague summits as their long term common goal until the year 2024.Two percent is what all new NATO members are asked to contribute. Later on existing members agreed to follow this GDP share goal. However President Trump suddenly asked for 2% immediately, something nobody had promised.

For a lot of years Germany was spending 1.2% - 1.3% and there is no way they would have met this target of 2% by 2024. ?I think I remember Merkel pushing it back.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...defense-budget

[Tartiflette Fan]

Originally Posted by Buster15

Don't understand what that is supposed to mean.
The German MoD has spent a considerable sum of money remanufacturing certain parts to maintain their nuclear Tornado capabilities up to 2030.

The bombs are being modified and so the aircraft will have to be modified and "accepted " by the US as a suitable carrier, and in discussion in this forum months ago, they weren't going to do it.

[Tartiflette Fan]

Originally Posted by Less Hair

And after that timeframe they will have nuclear capable F-35 to carry NATO's US nukes.

And that decision is about four weeks old.

[Less Hair]

Otherwise they would have ordered Super Hornets and Growlers to do the same job in the future. They just changed their selection to F-35s. It's not like Germany considered to leave NATO's "Nukleare Teilhabe", carrying and dropping US nukes in times of war like many other NATO members would do as well.

[Tartiflette Fan]

Originally Posted by Less Hair

Otherwise they would have ordered Super Hornets and Growlers to do the same job in the future. They just changed their selection to F-35s. It's not like Germany considered to leave NATO's "Nukleare Teilhabe", carrying and dropping US nukes in times of war like many other NATO members would do as well.

Unsure what you mean by that. It was debated in the recent election campaign.

[Less Hair]

Obviously the Greens and SPD support it. CDU and FDP as well.
Who do you mean?

[Tartiflette Fan]

Originally Posted by Less Hair

Obviously the Greens and SPD support it. CDU and FDP as well.
Who do you mean?

Now the official agreed party line is that but during the campaign there were some MdB -SPD, Greens and Die Linke - who were proposing NATO withdrawal . The following article states that the new coalition angered NATO partners in Dec 2021 when a sentence in the coalition agreement became public which said that they wanted to join " as an observer, not a member , the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons to constructively approach the intention of the treaty "

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/...-17661467.html

[Just This Once...]

Originally Posted by fitliker

Would the bomb protect German women from the invading hordes of Rapists presently making shopping at night a dangerous pastime for women in Germany ?.

It was back in 2015, so not 'presently' or even across Germany either.

Originally Posted by fitliker

...you can read some of the horrific crimes not seen since the Red Army’s denazification in WW2 by using any search engine in seconds .

Are they the Nazis that Stalin became allies with to help start WW2?

Do these account holders get a list of inflammatory things to say or post, or are they allowed to make up their own drivel as long as it aims to make the 'West' look bad?

[Clop_Clop]

Do these account holders get a list of inflammatory things to say or post, or are they allowed to make up their own drivel as long as it aims to make the 'West' look bad?

Yeah the list of topics are not that long which makes it bit more annoying as each time it's a repetition of the same message but in a different form only... Common ones are of course, rapes, mainstream liberal west leftist media and of course Soros.

[Whenurhappy]

The events of the weeks and months ahead in CEE will determine what NATO - as a collective - does and whether the US continues to have a leading role in NATO and whether Putin-songging Trump is re-elected.

"Events, dear boy, events"

[Wensleydale]

Its all been debated before.......

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j20voPS0gI

[Buster15]

Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan

The bombs are being modified and so the aircraft will have to be modified and "accepted " by the US as a suitable carrier, and in discussion in this forum months ago, they weren't going to do it.

Understood. Thank you for this.