Tornado jets!
This is absolutely not pointless. A government minister should be on top of his brief; the devil is in the detail. Our front line fast jet squadrons comprise typhoons and F35s. If you are armed forces minister and you either don’t know that or you allow your spad / civil servant write your speech, uncorrected for crucial detail you are not on top of your job. Sure, it may have been an error written in the heat of the moment. However the RAF / RN crews who are front line, highly trained personnel can only feel undermined by this lack of technical understanding. Maybe it’s just me.
There are only 2 of them left now!!
(I hate the way that some posters here like to shout others down by saying "I'm on the front line and I do/don't think what you said matters". This is an anonymous forum so no claims to authority can be made.)
Obviously a symptom of COVID . . . . mis-spoke, mis-pronounce, mis -identify and, wait-for-it, miss the target . . and its catching.
Main object of HMG in these circumstances is to keep the collective assemblage of Brexitting-chest wallopers, Glastonberry rubber band wearers, Harry potter and Ariane Grande afficionados, shamrock air hells-bells tourist types, footballing delusionals nice and warm in their comfort bubble with lots of syrupy words that confirm their limited life experience.
Oh boy, are they in for a shock when Mr P and "Friends" pitch-up at Calais !
Main object of HMG in these circumstances is to keep the collective assemblage of Brexitting-chest wallopers, Glastonberry rubber band wearers, Harry potter and Ariane Grande afficionados, shamrock air hells-bells tourist types, footballing delusionals nice and warm in their comfort bubble with lots of syrupy words that confirm their limited life experience.
Oh boy, are they in for a shock when Mr P and "Friends" pitch-up at Calais !
You lost, get over it. Bigger fish to fry now.
(The EU have refused to kick Russia out of Swift payments while the UK/US are trying to. Where's the EU's moral compass now?)
I watched the speech live, and did do a double take at the outset at the use of the word Tornado! But that aside it was a very good speech by a guy I have to confess I have not heard of before, and the subsequent exchanges were of equal quality, showing a good unity across the house.
(The EU have refused to kick Russia out of Swift payments while the UK/US are trying to. Where's the EU's moral compass now?)
Thinking back a few years IIRC the RAF's own on line advertising site had pictures of Tornadoes after the type was OOS.
Some contracted advertising guru using his" Ajiffniff." ?
Some contracted advertising guru using his" Ajiffniff." ?
Poor bloke has probably been briefed to death the last few days, working hard on capacity and he went back to a core memory regarding Tornados (which were in service in the same place doing a similar task probably when he was serving) rather than Typhoons during a speaking part in a stressful situation.
Must be ace being perfect like some of the stone throwers on here. Good job we have a just culture now.
Must be ace being perfect like some of the stone throwers on here. Good job we have a just culture now.
*Ring Ring, Ring Ring . . *
"Hello?"
"Hello, could we speak to Vladimir Putin, please?"
"Ah, yes, of course, that's fine - can I ask what it is in connection with please?"
"Yes, This is the 1970's and we'd like our Outdated Imperialist Dogma back . . ."
"That's fine. I'll see if he's available."
Years later . . .
"Hello, Caller - he is not available. He is in yet another Steroidal fight with his faceski. Too make it look youngski."
"That's okay, we'll wait . . ."
"Hello?"
"Hello, could we speak to Vladimir Putin, please?"
"Ah, yes, of course, that's fine - can I ask what it is in connection with please?"
"Yes, This is the 1970's and we'd like our Outdated Imperialist Dogma back . . ."
"That's fine. I'll see if he's available."
Years later . . .
"Hello, Caller - he is not available. He is in yet another Steroidal fight with his faceski. Too make it look youngski."
"That's okay, we'll wait . . ."
Last edited by Auxtank; 25th Feb 2022 at 20:33.
You keep repeating "Maybe its's just me", apparently either to drum up some support in sympathy, or possibly to soften the blow when you finally get the message that, yes, everybody else is confirming that not only it is just you, but that it is possibly the daftest bit of moaning they've heard for a long time. I'd stop digging.
Did you not listen to Stoltenberg's speech tonight?
Five times he repeated that he considered that Putin (Russia) knows the difference between NATO countries and Non-NATO countries.
Anyone trying to stir it up about those red lines is quite frankly a bit of an arse and needs to go away and have a bit of a think about that.
If you think it's going to come to this - you really are quite stupid.
Five times he repeated that he considered that Putin (Russia) knows the difference between NATO countries and Non-NATO countries.
Anyone trying to stir it up about those red lines is quite frankly a bit of an arse and needs to go away and have a bit of a think about that.
If you think it's going to come to this - you really are quite stupid.
I said it once. Not interested in drumming up anything. Not digging / not interested. If you / all think it is ok that a government minister is not on top of his brief then I give up. I am sure the lunatic / psychopath Putin has no doubt about his military assets but there you go.
I said it once. Not interested in drumming up anything. Not digging / not interested. If you / all think it is ok that a government minister is not on top of his brief then I give up. I am sure the lunatic / psychopath Putin has no doubt about his military assets but there you go.
People screw up - even them - especially under pressure - well done for catching it - but not a lot to be gained here by dissection. Surely.
Thanks Auxtank, you get it. Not trying to cause an internet spat, just expressing my view. Cheers.