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Prince Andrew Loses Military Titles

Old 13th Jan 2022, 21:10
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Does Her Majesty have a service Webley she can leave sat on a table somewhere appropriate?
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 21:19
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Innocent until proven guilty?
He'll get his day in court.

But his conduct by remaining friends with a convicted pedophile, his utterly disastrous performance in the BBC interview which he did against the advice of the Royal media experts, his general arrogance and unlikeability and his shockingly poor judgement throughout warrant being kicked to the curb. It also helps with general damage control for "the firm".

As I recal the FBI released files as part of an FOI in 2019 that his uncle Louis had a penchant for underage boys in sailor uniforms. That didn't get much attention.
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 21:57
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The Andrew formerly known as Prince.
You won the Internet today, bravo!

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Old 13th Jan 2022, 22:17
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I seem to recall a nasty episode many years ago when a poor sod on security accosted Andrew in the Palace Grounds. The said Andrew said "do you know who I am?" and the poor sod, new to the job, was hauled over the coals.
From tomorrow it would be "do you know who I was?"

[Or, "I don't know who you are, but I know what you are!]

Zero sympathy from PPRuNe I note.
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 22:19
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Originally Posted by The Helpful Stacker View Post
Does Her Majesty have a service Webley she can leave sat on a table somewhere appropriate?
and a fine single malt ....................
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 22:20
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For those worried about his Taxpayers income - I believe he’s already on ‘subsistence allowance’ of circa 250Kpa from his mom - plus his navy pension. He’s had to sell ‘his’ dodgy ski chalet to pay off his lawyers fees (to date) and his business support stuff has pancaked…and just now he’s had a lot of his dress suits taken off him and his global free ticket has been removed!
He was already jammed hard between that Rock and hard place - damned if he was sent to trial and damned if he settled out of court - and - in my view - the Pizza Hut and lack of sweat tales damned him anyway.
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 22:22
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Originally Posted by langleybaston View Post
Zero sympathy from PPRuNe I note.
Not surprising given that PPRuNe appears to be trying to out-outrage the Daily Mail, at least on this forum.
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 22:29
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Originally Posted by Fortissimo View Post
Not surprising given that PPRuNe appears to be trying to out-outrage the Daily Mail, at least on this forum.
Please enlighten us as to why we should be sympathetic when his own mother the Queen isn’t ?
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 22:39
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Lost my HRH title? Nooo sweat.
But not quite all of of his appointments, since he apparently will retain the rank of Vice Admiral - and I'm not holding my breath waiting for someone to say "How appropriate".... LS&GC medal and clasps may perhaps be at risk, not to mention any future Jubilee medals.

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Old 13th Jan 2022, 22:42
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Prince Andrew Loses Military Titles

I notice that in the most recent photographs the prince is sporting a new medal ribbon mounted in preference to the South Atlantic Medal. This is a very recent addition (2021 to date). Does anyone know what the medal is and when it was awarded? Also is he in danger of losing his Naval LS&GCM?
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 23:33
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Originally Posted by Mickj3 View Post
I notice that in the most recent photographs the prince is sporting a new medal ribbon mounted in preference to the South Atlantic Medal. This is a very recent addition (2021 to date). Does anyone know what the medal is and when it was awarded? Also is he in danger of losing his Naval LS&GCM?
Can he have his LS&GCM taken away? Never heard of such happening before. Not that he will have reason to wear medals bar the reasons we would wear them for Remembrance. He isn't going to be needing them for duty.
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Old 13th Jan 2022, 23:42
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Originally Posted by Fortissimo View Post
Not surprising given that PPRuNe appears to be trying to out-outrage the Daily Mail, at least on this forum.
Daily Mail is written for such an audience. Todays actions are something that gave HM no pleasure to do at all I wager, but she knows the duty requirements. Randy Andy burned his bridge, nobody else.
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 05:29
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Originally Posted by Foxxster View Post
oh, nothing will actually happen to him. Or his equally evil wife. However…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ite-House.html
What are you trying to suggest? Epstein didn’t bring underage teens to the White House:

Many of the women Epstein took on his trips to Washington were known to have had romantic relationships with him.

They include Celina Midelfart, then 21, Eva Andersson-Dubin, then 33, Francis Jardine, who was believed to be in her 20s, and his one-time girlfriend turned madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, who was 32.
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 05:43
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I agree with innocent until proven guilty.
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 06:19
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I agree with innocent until proven guilty.
Well this was a preemptive measure and not punishment….yet.
Basically put on unpaid leave pending the likely outcome.

The move came after 152 Royal Navy, British Army and RAF veterans wrote to the Queen to demand that Andrew be removed from the honorary military positions. The Queen is head of the armed forces, and honorary military appointments are in her gift. Andrew had clung to his military roles, including that of colonel of the Grenadier Guards.

The Queen took the decision to remove the duke’s royal affiliations and put his style of His Royal Highness into cold storage after talks with the Prince of Wales and the Duke of Cambridge.
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 07:48
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Originally Posted by langleybaston View Post
I seem to recall a nasty episode many years ago when a poor sod on security accosted Andrew in the Palace Grounds. The said Andrew said "do you know who I am?" and the poor sod, new to the job, was hauled over the coals.
From tomorrow it would be "do you know who I was?"

[Or, "I don't know who you are, but I know what you are!]
That would have raised a smile with my late father had he still been around, as he was with Royal Protection at Buck House, Ken Palace & Windsor back in the early 80's, and I recall a few tales of his about Andrew's penchant for 'testing' security at Windsor and the Palace with nighttime excursions and other activities......and much use of the "Don't you know who I am" phrase.
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 09:06
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He has done himself no favours and we all know his lifestyle has had some dubious moments, but ask yourself what you would do if someone accused you of doing something in the distant past and wanted compensation for it ( and whatever she says, I believe Andrew’s accuser is after a payday more than justice)? I suspect that most people have had a one night stand many years ago and if they were introduced to you today, you would have no idea who they were.

How do you prove that you didn’t do it and how do you fund a defence? It certainly wouldn’t be easy. There is also a good chance that your life would be ruined in the process, whether innocent or guilty and especially if you have a high profile.

He might be considered a creep by a lot of people, but he is in a no-win situation. Unlike his accuser.
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 09:23
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There are some - shall we say contentious? - issues in his tale which must surely be amenable to easy confirmation - or not.

Of course many of us have “brief liaisons” in our past when perhaps we can’t even remember their names, let alone what they looked like.

But:

The “no sweat” item. I’ve recently got - through FOI - all my service medical records. His must be available.

The Pizza Express defence. Apart from the fact that this may involve his daughters having to testify, I must ask:

Surely a Prince and two Princesses popping in for a pizza is sufficiently unusual - even in Woking - for it to be etched in the memories of the staff of the pizzeria.

More obviously, he would have been accompanied by his “minders” I don’t know how long they keep their records, but again, such an unusual event must be logged somewhere……

It is - of course - just a Government plot to get BoJo off the front pages [that’s a joke btw…….]
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 09:50
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Originally Posted by teeteringhead View Post

Surely a Prince and two Princesses popping in for a pizza is sufficiently unusual - even in Woking - for it to be etched in the memories of the staff of the pizzeria.
Or a bank card statement, cant imagine he would be the kind of person to carry cash around
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 10:15
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There will be many information streams available that will enable those currently with access and an interest, to check Andrew’s version of events. Her Majesty will be one such party. Travel and medical records, plus the records of Andrew’s close protection officers being just a few examples. It seems possible to presume the Queen has acted on the basis of such information.

I believe the next stage in the legal process will be disclosure? In which each party must respond to requests for information from the other. At that point it should be relatively straightforward to determine whether the case is vexatious, or whether it might justify closer scrutiny?

I think the Queen’s actions, and those of Andrew’s legal team thus far, might suggest that, on the basis of what can already be determined, the allegations are not easily dismissed?

I rather suspect Andrew is in a situation that makes it difficult to disprove/discredit what is being alleged. I imagine there’s a chance he might not even try?
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