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From: England
the French navy does not feel the need to name ships after some old and faded recollection of a glorious military past.
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From: australia
I'm starting to feel sorry for them. They are so butt hurt, their roids are bleeding. I'm just glad their 'Napoleon complex' arrogance, is carrying them through this difficult period. France has has a lot of disputed over the last couple of years. Sadly I can't see that changing into the future. A term 'born that way' fits
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From: aus
They did have one success the sufferen is that ship that killed nelson, so yeah they are kinda naming ships after their past glories if you completely ignore the the rest of the battle of trafalger
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
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From: Peripatetic
No, it’s not a SNL skit, she’s a Trump supporting commentator…….
(Making a case not to get involved in more overseas alliances and adventures)
(Making a case not to get involved in more overseas alliances and adventures)
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From: Philippines
Thats a tongue in cheek video, see the other thread about its context. I just watched this vid on the new AARGM - ER and hope we in Oz can get these as part of AUKUS. Fits well with our F35 and Super Hornet assets!
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From: Baltimore, MD
No, it’s not a SNL skit, she’s a Trump supporting commentator…….
(Making a case not to get involved in more overseas alliances and adventures)
https://twitter.com/warmatters/statu...582626818?s=21
(Making a case not to get involved in more overseas alliances and adventures)
https://twitter.com/warmatters/statu...582626818?s=21
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From: Devon
The French subs use commercial grade grade fuel, hence needing refuelling every 5 years, covered under existing IAEA regulations.
The UK and USA reactors use weapons grade fuel, which is why they last for the life of the sub.
if you want a comparison, Iran has the first - everyone is twitching about them enriching it to the second.
The UK and USA reactors use weapons grade fuel, which is why they last for the life of the sub.
if you want a comparison, Iran has the first - everyone is twitching about them enriching it to the second.
Not so sure about American submarine reactors, but the Astute class SSN is the first RN nuclear boat to be designed not to need refuelling. This is a big thing as it means a massive refit that takes the boat out of service for years is no longer needed. They have the same PWR 2 reactor as the Vanguard class SSBN (which have needed refuelling) but with a new reactor core that is designed to last longer.
Has France not gone down a similar route?
I was slightly surprised to recently learn that Australia has no nuclear industry, apart from Uranuim mines. The only reactor is a small one used for research and making radionuclides for scientific and medical purposes.
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From: Eden Valley
The refuelling of reactors is one reason why there was no option of a French nuclear submarine. The loss of capability sovereignty in the future, to both the politics of the day and cost, is completely at the whim of the French. Versus hopefully lesser risks with traditional allies such as the UK and US.
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Has France not gone down a similar route?
https://nonproliferation.org/civilian-heu-france/
https://fissilematerials.org/blog/20...tor_and_f.html
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From: aus
Another thing to take into account is the a ANSTO (Australian nuclear sciences and technology organisation) developed what is beleived to be the most efficient means of enrichment. Its currently licensed to exclusively the the US
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separa...ser_excitation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separa...ser_excitation
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From: aus
The submarine was a justifiable headline of the announcement, while there was also a few smaller announcement like shyborg/loyal wingman, joint hypersonic and PRSM development programs. Guessing there will be a lot of extra stuff currently in discussion. Like apparently the discussion about permanent basing of US marine in Northern QLD is back on the cards
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From: aus
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-...leet/100567052
NZ apparently wants in
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/f...25-p592tr.html
NZ apparently wants in
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/f...25-p592tr.html
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From: NSW
Tell NZ to go take a cold shower. Banning nukes and little to contribute doesn't cut it...they can't have it both ways! [or maybe Ardern can]
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Can’t see it on three grounds.
Firstly, what would NZ bring to the table to earn a seat at the table? I cant see anything.
Secondly membership would allow them a disruptive voice on an6 decisions, whether nuclear or not - as already proven over 5 Eyes discussions.
Lastly, with the deep involvement of China in companies and universities in NZ, the risk would high of any research into new technology, cyber, quantum or other, rapidly being passed on to Chinese researchers.
Firstly, what would NZ bring to the table to earn a seat at the table? I cant see anything.
Secondly membership would allow them a disruptive voice on an6 decisions, whether nuclear or not - as already proven over 5 Eyes discussions.
Lastly, with the deep involvement of China in companies and universities in NZ, the risk would high of any research into new technology, cyber, quantum or other, rapidly being passed on to Chinese researchers.