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We’re getting a new “National Flagship”

Old 6th Jun 2021, 06:45
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especially now that Her Majesty is not so long for the Earth.
nncO; off to the shame box with you. HM will be around for a while yet, I hope.
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Old 6th Jun 2021, 07:31
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"Some of the stuff produced in the UK would never compete on the world stage if it weren't for the Royal seals or endorsements"

I traveled over and lived in a lot of the World - and I can honestly say I've never heard anyone say that they were buying anything because the UK Royal Family "endorsed" it - you only hear that in the UK.

I suspect that the when the change of monarch comes, hopefully not for a long time yet, the change will make any Royal Yacht totally superfluous.
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Old 6th Jun 2021, 08:39
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If ER is monarch when it named it can called HMS Heart of Oak.

If it’s Charles it can be named Head of Oak….

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Oak

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Old 6th Jun 2021, 11:27
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In which case the RN will have to re-instate the rank of "Jolly Tar"
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Old 6th Jun 2021, 15:05
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Just make sure it’s built in Britain and not the lowest tender or it may end up built in China or even North Korea
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Old 6th Jun 2021, 15:32
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Perhaps time for a short quotation from the chorus of "Heart of Oak" - "...steady, boys, steady!"

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Old 6th Jun 2021, 16:12
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Why do a Churchill and use a warship for cruising?

There are a couple of shiny new ones that could stand a Royal Mission....and fly by's on ceremonial days would be far easier logistically.
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Old 6th Jun 2021, 17:22
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
We’re getting a new “Royal Yacht

As a sales tool yes, but blowing 200 million on a ship to be used by a few.. No.

She will be Royal Navy manned, I wonder if they will include a heli deck and a secondary role, Britannia was supposed to double as a hospital ship, but missed the Falklands I believe due to the fuel it used. If it does fulfill the same rôle a Heli deck would make sense.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57293882
The artist rendering shows a very handsome ship. I hope it does get built as Britain is a seafaring nation like no other and should be celebrating that fact, not giving in to forces of political correctness that are so intent on leveling down and making sure there is no place for national pride.

Sad really....

In any case done right it is a chance to kick start British developed work in emergent ship propulsion technologies

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Old 6th Jun 2021, 19:02
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HMS Oprah.
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Old 6th Jun 2021, 19:27
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A question:

Is this a Royal Yacht for the use of Her Majesty the Queen or is it a vanity project for our 'potato in a wig' Prime Minister?

I ask because the Government website says this:

New national flagship to promote British businesses around the world
The ship, the first of its kind to be built and commissioned by the UK, will boost British trade and drive investment into our economy. The vessel will be used to host high level trade negotiations and trade shows and will sail all over the world promoting British interests.

A typical six month itinerary for the flagship might include docking at a port in a country where a British Prime Ministerial visit is taking place to accommodate parallel discussions between British and local businesses, hosting trade fairs to sell British products to an emerging market and providing the venue for an international ministerial summit or major trade negotiations between the UK and another government.
There is no mention of it being a Royal Yacht.

If it is a Royal Yacht that the Queen can lend to the Prime Minister then fine. However, it's a Boris vanity project that he can choose to lend to the Queen then no way.
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Old 6th Jun 2021, 22:40
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Any idea how much of the British economy depends on the only real Monarchy left in the world?.
The chap in Thailand seems to still have a lot more power than Ol' Lizzie. Seems like a far closer example of a "real monarchy" to me no?
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Old 7th Jun 2021, 00:53
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Old to New

I wonder if the "Golden rivet" will be transfered from the "old Brittania"to the new?
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Old 7th Jun 2021, 01:15
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Yacht Perle Mesta at a shade over Two Hundred Million Dollars is brand new and looking for its first owner.

Just saying!

She is laying in Spain....had a helideck, submarine, seaplane....and a few other upscale amenities.
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Old 7th Jun 2021, 05:13
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Originally Posted by oldpax View Post
I wonder if the "Golden rivet" will be transfered from the "old Brittania"to the new?
They might even keep the galley recipe for Navy Cake
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Old 7th Jun 2021, 07:42
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Puts the usage, and hence who can be allowed to build it, into context.

https://www.superyachtnews.com/opini...he-royal-yacht


Whither the royal yacht
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Old 7th Jun 2021, 07:55
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Yacht Perle Mesta at a shade over Two Hundred Million Dollars is brand new and looking for its first owner.

Just saying!

She is laying in Spain....had a helideck, submarine, seaplane....and a few other upscale amenities.
Every superyacht is for sale, just have to write a big enough cheque

But in reality they could do what UAE did with the YAS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yas_(yacht)
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Old 7th Jun 2021, 07:57
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Perhaps the most elegant State Yacht in use is the MV Savarona, the Presidential Yacht of Turkey. It has classic lines and is owned by a company and chartered back to the GoT as an when required. If you are in Istanbul, it is definitely worth walking up the Bosphorous and looking at it:

MV Savarona - Wikipedia
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Old 7th Jun 2021, 08:36
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Don't have to go that far - the Danish Royal yacht has similar style

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMY_Dannebrog_(A540)

of course we could save money by refloating HMS Victory and freeing up a dry dock at Pompey..................
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Old 7th Jun 2021, 09:49
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Every superyacht is for sale, just have to write a big enough cheque
Yes but how many oligarchs wants to own a second hand yacht? Not may I'd contend.
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Old 7th Jun 2021, 10:14
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Yes but how many oligarchs wants to own a second hand yacht? Not may I'd contend.

Actually worked on super yachts. They break into 3 catagories super yachts, mega and gigayachts.

If you want to upgrade you got 2 options you can go order a bespoke yacht built exactly to your specification and wait 3-5 for it to be designed and built. These are not like cars that you can just ring up and get a new car driveway with in hours. They are also the people who give zero ...ks. For example graham heart went to a company that built commercial and wanted them to build him a superyacht they refused but said if they wanted two they would. So he bought two lived on the first one for a while, then lived on the second for while and sold the first

Superyachts and mega yachts change hands regularly because as I said you want to upgrade you got 2 options buy someone elses or wait 3-5 years, heard with covid its getting closer to 7 years if you want one from big names . Gigayachts are different and are much more bespoke, evan that octopus (paul allen Microsoft) sold after his death for around 200 to 230 million after being on the market for 12 months

For most gigayachts theres probablyt not a cheque big enough for A or Dilbar but there are gigyachts for sale if are interested like octopus
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