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Linton on Ouse : The end of an era

Old 26th Feb 2021, 04:40
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Idle stop, other QFIs on 2 Sqn around at the time you mention included:-

Garth Bennett, Clive Roberts, Neil Buckland, Russ Morley, Mike Sykes, Mike Kempster, John Andres, Chris Burwell, Brian Casey, Gavin McKay, there will be others I canít recall.

As you say, some no longer with us. The most remarkable of one who survived was Ron Dowler. Ron hit the ground during a LL Aeros practice, his survival was in no small part due to the bravery and skill of one of the crash crew.
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Old 26th Feb 2021, 08:09
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Long Fountains Corridor...

So, what will the ladies from Ripon teachersí training college do for escorts (and future husbands) now?
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Old 26th Feb 2021, 12:52
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So, what will the ladies from Ripon teachersí training college do for escorts (and future husbands) now?
Sorry, but the college closed many years ago. I moved to Ripon in 2002, and it had already been closed a good few years.
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Old 26th Feb 2021, 17:24
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More than one occasion student pilots would get their callsigns mixed up and would be told to adopt the callsigns "Stupid 1" and "Stupid 2"

I also remember an irate Sqn Ldr storming into the tower with a huge chunk of ice that had formed on the prop of his Tucano. (causing an engine imbalance and resulting in an emergency recovery) Demanding to know why ATC weren't informing the pilots of icing in the vicinity (it wasn't in the forecast, and the first we knew of it was when he reported it)

Once placated by the supervisor with this explanation, the pilot looked around the tower and then asked "What should I do with this?" cue the Pilot Officer who was ground controller piping up "I can probably find you a gin and tonic to put it in sir!" This resulted in the propeller blade sized hunk of ice being thrown at the ground controller and the pilot storming back out of the tower whilst the people left in the tower descended into fits of giggles
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Old 26th Feb 2021, 20:19
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Audax: yes, I recall Russ Morley and Clive Roberts. I think our 8 Course was there when Ron Dowler had his accident. If he is still here ( hope so) that is indeed fantastic.

FMM910: Any names on that photo?

Nice to see reminiscences from the younger Tucano guys ( whoops...and gals!).

For the younger generation too, you may wonder why, in the days before very common post uni entries, and before the advent of internet dating, it was common for spouses to be teachers or nurses!! There’s a hint from billovitch....
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Old 26th Feb 2021, 21:26
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Ron Dowler crashed his JP the day before I arrived to begin the BFTS course. It was still lying inverted on the airfield. Quite a sobering sight.
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Old 26th Feb 2021, 22:27
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More than one occasion student pilots would get their callsigns mixed up and would be told to adopt the callsigns "Stupid 1" and "Stupid 2"
When was that? I was there for quite a while in the 90s and beyond in various roles and never heard that. I'm not saying you are making it up but, hmmmnnn.

I do however remember a student doing his mandatory 'hour in the tower' which they all thought was dreadfully boring.. but he recalled being on headset on the shoulder of Approach and pointing at the screen and asking about a fast moving blob moving towards another blob followed by the controller swiftly blurting out "Errrr.. LOP 51 turn immediate left heading 360". It didn't give him the greatest confidence..

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Old 27th Feb 2021, 09:40
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You had RADAR??????? Good God, how to spoil people. What's wrong with their eyes.
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Old 27th Feb 2021, 13:15
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Originally Posted by idle stop View Post
Audax: yes, I recall Russ Morley and Clive Roberts. I think our 8 Course was there when Ron Dowler had his accident. If he is still here ( hope so) that is indeed fantastic.
Ron was still alive a couple of years ago.

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Old 27th Feb 2021, 14:49
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Ron was still alive a couple of years ago
That is amazing and excellent news. I was one of two Controllers on duty in the Tower at Linton, and witnessed Ron's accident that Saturday morning at the end of April 1977. The airfield had opened specifically for Ron to practise his display. All I knew at the time was that Ron had suffered significant head injuries, and the prognosis was not good. I believe he spent a long time in Wroughton Hospital.


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Old 27th Feb 2021, 17:06
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How the memory plays tricks! You are absolutely correct. I thought the accident was whilst I was still there in ‘76. April 1977 I was already at Odiham, just about to start Puma OCU, having been through Ternhill/Shawbury.
Really good to know Ron still about.
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Old 27th Feb 2021, 20:33
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Ron Dowler’s life was saved by one of the station doctors who performed a tracheotomy on him whilst he was still strapped into a live ejection seat in the inverted JP. The seat’s top handle was partly out of its housing so it could have gone off. I was told that Ron’s head was actually below ground level because the impact after the aircraft turned over had gouged out the earth below the canopy.

I’m fairly sure the Doc received a well deserved bravery award but I can’t recall what it was.
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Old 27th Feb 2021, 21:46
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You had RADAR??????? Good God, how to spoil people. What's wrong with their eyes.
Yes there was radar at Linton.. using your eyes isn't much good IMC

It was accepted that the ATC people who came... ahem, not near the top of the Shawbury course were sent to Linton as it was single type and not that busy compared with Brize, Lossie, etc.
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Old 27th Feb 2021, 22:39
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When was that? I was there for quite a while in the 90s and beyond in various roles and never heard that. I'm not saying you are making it up but, hmmmnnn.
I was in the tower there from 97-99 (with a 4 month holiday in '99) so I would guess summer of '98 The WO controller was "eccentric' to say the least.

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Old 27th Feb 2021, 22:43
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Originally Posted by viz View Post

... not that busy compared with Brize, Lossie, etc.
However the tower did win an award called the Cossor Trophy (later renamed the Raytheon Trophy) part of the submission was that Linton was the second busiest airfield in the UK (behind Heathrow)
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Old 28th Feb 2021, 15:22
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26 Course Graduated April 1973

26 Course Linton April 1973 Graduation

What happened to you all - it's nearly 50 years ago!

L - R Back: Dick Lotinga, Mike (Jimmy) Lowes, Chris Hill, Kim Willcox, Spence Brotherton, Dennis Martin, Chris Daymon, Phil Walters, Bernie Mills.

L - R Front: Andy Abbott, John Boxer, Pete Kemp, Malcolm White, Terry Easterbrook, Paul Critchley, Roy Baron, Mike Stevens.

Yes, what happened to you all?!!

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Old 1st Mar 2021, 16:42
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Pete Kemp was on ULAS similar time as me. Last ran across him at Binbrook, I think about 1988 when I was doing a Chipmunk summer camp there. IIRC he was doing a Sim instructor tour. I think also it was he who, whilst at Linton, left his JP on a railway line in N Yorks, after banging out safely. Not his fault.
Pretty sure Paul Critchley and I were fellow QHIs on Gazelle at Shawbury.
Malcolm White...recent PM of the Hon Company?
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Old 2nd Mar 2021, 06:05
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Pete Kemp ejected climbing through deep cloud ( well beyond his IR. rating) whilst at Cranwell as a G.E. .He continued at Linton, which he described as having a very different atmosphere!
The joke at the time was that at least after ejecting he "ended up on track".
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Old 2nd Mar 2021, 19:30
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Thanks for putting me right on that, Haraka. I seem to remember it was not just the unexpected depth of cloud but also to do with overload of ATC instructions, and having to reach across cockpit to change a squawk...
i think we all agree that Linton had a great atmosphere compared with Cranwell!
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Old 3rd Mar 2021, 07:26
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i think we all agree that Linton had a great atmosphere compared with Cranwell!
But that was probably countered by the BFT course at Cranwell being entirely on the Mk5A rather than having to endure the 3A up until streaming.
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