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BBadanov While it could be argued. That considering a 6th gen replacement for the FA-18F and not ordering the 4th squadron last March. Or 2025 decision, as planned. Is pushing it down the road. You are misrepresenting the facts and I believe you are coming at it from a political viewpoint. Sky news?
Spaz has covered the other investments. One example: We don't "soldier on" with the FA-18f and growler. They are being updated to block lll, at significant cost. In truth, we can't scrap them till F-35 block 4 is done. We need the maritime capability.
If we don't go ahead with more F-35. I personally don't see a potential split fleet of 5 and 6th gen, to be a bad thing.
https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ustralia-aukus
The federal government has squirrelled away more than $30bn to lift defence funding over the coming decade, as the Aukus project helps drive spending increases.Defence funding as a share of the economy is expected to grow from 2.04% now to 2.3% in a decade’s time...This will mean defence funding reaches 2.3% of gross domestic product at the end of this 10-year period. The government says this is 0.2% higher than the trajectory Labor inherited from the Coalition.
Spending announced so far includes $19bn over the coming four years “for nuclear-powered submarines, long-range strike capabilities, strengthened northern bases, workforce growth and retention, innovation, and regional partnerships”.
Spaz has covered the other investments. One example: We don't "soldier on" with the FA-18f and growler. They are being updated to block lll, at significant cost. In truth, we can't scrap them till F-35 block 4 is done. We need the maritime capability.
If we don't go ahead with more F-35. I personally don't see a potential split fleet of 5 and 6th gen, to be a bad thing.
https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ustralia-aukus
The federal government has squirrelled away more than $30bn to lift defence funding over the coming decade, as the Aukus project helps drive spending increases.Defence funding as a share of the economy is expected to grow from 2.04% now to 2.3% in a decade’s time...This will mean defence funding reaches 2.3% of gross domestic product at the end of this 10-year period. The government says this is 0.2% higher than the trajectory Labor inherited from the Coalition.
Spending announced so far includes $19bn over the coming four years “for nuclear-powered submarines, long-range strike capabilities, strengthened northern bases, workforce growth and retention, innovation, and regional partnerships”.
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FRUM (John): US Navy tests mirror-coated F-35C on ‘Abe’ Combat Aircraft Journal Feb 2024 Vol25 No2
https://guardian.ng/life/the-remote-south-pacific-island-where-they-worship-planes-2
https://guardian.ng/life/the-remote-south-pacific-island-where-they-worship-planes-2
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$600 Million Contract Secures Local Jobs and Keeps Australians Safe | Defence Ministers
"More than 350 local Queensland jobs will be secured under a new $600 million contract to sustain and upgrade the F/A-18F Super Hornet and EA-18G Growler fleets for the Royal Australian Air Force. The five-year contract extension, awarded to Boeing Defence Australia, will see support for the Super Hornet and Growler programs continue until 2030, ensuring the long-term retention of a highly skilled expert workforce at RAAF Base Amberley. Australians working in the Defence industry will oversee the engineering, maintenance and project management for the sustainment and upgrade of the fleets...."
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05 Jan 2024 https://aviationweek.com/defense-spa...xpansion-plans
"...Copenhagen set out plans on Jan. 5 for a series of analyses looking at a range of capability sets in the Danish armed forces, with the F-35 fleet [of 27] a key area of focus.... Recent media reporting in Denmark has suggested that the Danish F-35 fleet could grow by an additional 10 aircraft..."
"...Copenhagen set out plans on Jan. 5 for a series of analyses looking at a range of capability sets in the Danish armed forces, with the F-35 fleet [of 27] a key area of focus.... Recent media reporting in Denmark has suggested that the Danish F-35 fleet could grow by an additional 10 aircraft..."
What sort of conflict, war are these aircraft designed for? They are so eye wateringly expensive and time consuming to make that should any major conflict break out I can see smaller operators rapidly running out of time and money trying to replace them. The UK's fleet being a case in point.
Unless of course their technology negates any of them being lost.
Unless of course their technology negates any of them being lost.
What sort of conflict, war are these aircraft designed for? They are so eye wateringly expensive and time consuming to make that should any major conflict break out I can see smaller operators rapidly running out of time and money trying to replace them. The UK's fleet being a case in point.
Unless of course their technology negates any of them being lost.
Unless of course their technology negates any of them being lost.
What sort of conflict, war are these aircraft designed for? They are so eye wateringly expensive and time consuming to make that should any major conflict break out I can see smaller operators rapidly running out of time and money trying to replace them. The UK's fleet being a case in point.
Unless of course their technology negates any of them being lost.
Unless of course their technology negates any of them being lost.
And yes, quality costs money.
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Worth noting is that other contenders were even more expensive: the Gripen was 9% more expensive, Mirage 2000 4% and Mig29 12%. The Fulcrum also had its service costs at the level of its own: 73% more expensive to use than the Hornet and almost 95% more expensive than F16.
In the end the Hornet wasn't that expensive, as a side note the Fulcrum was more expensive than any western FJ in the competition.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Whats interesting is that, as recently as last month, it was being reported that their request for additional AH-64s had been refused…
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/us-say...-ah-64-apache/
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/us-say...-ah-64-apache/
Israel announced earlier today the purchase of 25 more F-35I “Adir” and 25 more F-15IA “Thunder” aircraft alongside at least an additional 12 AH-64D helicopters.
Delivery expected in 2027, however the Israeli Government is hoping that some of the deliveries may be expedited and begin within the next few months.
Delivery expected in 2027, however the Israeli Government is hoping that some of the deliveries may be expedited and begin within the next few months.
Whats interesting is that, as recently as last month, it was being reported that their request for additional AH-64s had been refused…
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/us-say...-ah-64-apache/
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/us-say...-ah-64-apache/
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Tell the Times of Israel, Haaretz and other Israel papers..
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel...and-munitions/
“…Defense sources told The Times of Israel later Thursday that Israel’s plans to procure a new squadron of 25 F35i stealth fighter jets, a squadron of 25 F-15IA fighter jets — the Israeli variant of the advanced F-15EX — and a squadron of 12 Apache helicopters were advanced during the discussions.”…
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/01/...sson-from-war/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel...and-munitions/
“…Defense sources told The Times of Israel later Thursday that Israel’s plans to procure a new squadron of 25 F35i stealth fighter jets, a squadron of 25 F-15IA fighter jets — the Israeli variant of the advanced F-15EX — and a squadron of 12 Apache helicopters were advanced during the discussions.”…
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/01/...sson-from-war/
“…Defense sources told The Times of Israel later Thursday that Israel’s plans to procure a new squadron of 25 F35i stealth fighter jets, a squadron of 25 F-15IA fighter jets — the Israeli variant of the advanced F-15EX — and a squadron of 12 Apache helicopters were advanced during the discussions.”…
Israel announced earlier today the purchase of 25 more F-35I “Adir” and 25 more F-15IA “Thunder” aircraft alongside at least an additional 12 AH-64D helicopters.
Israel announced earlier today the purchase of 25 more F-35I “Adir” and 25 more F-15IA “Thunder” aircraft alongside at least an additional 12 AH-64D helicopters.