UK Strategic Defence Review 2020 - get your bids in now ladies & gents
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"Argos" is way past her sell by date - over 40 years old.
The question is does she need replacing or would we be better buying something to replace the Bay class? What strikes me is that we have no trouble selling Bay class vessels when they reach the end of their RN lives
The question is does she need replacing or would we be better buying something to replace the Bay class? What strikes me is that we have no trouble selling Bay class vessels when they reach the end of their RN lives
"Argos" is way past her sell by date - over 40 years old.
The question is does she need replacing or would we be better buying something to replace the Bay class? What strikes me is that we have no trouble selling Bay class vessels when they reach the end of their RN lives
The question is does she need replacing or would we be better buying something to replace the Bay class? What strikes me is that we have no trouble selling Bay class vessels when they reach the end of their RN lives
MRSS is allegedly the Bay/Albion replacement.
Interesting snippet through a bit of obfuscation was that he is urgently waiting on the RN delivering a proposal for the interim littoral support ship could well be Argus not a Bay Class due to in part to her better aviation support capacity. Of course the expected new broom at No 10 could throw all plans and calculations in the air plus the possibility of a new SoS.
Especially as the current favourite, by quite a large margin, to be the new PM, is the current SoS.
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Slovakia has ordered 152 new CV90 MK IV
The ministry said in a statement it has budgeted some €1.7 billion ($1.8 billion), including value-added tax (VAT), to procure the vehicles and cover related infrastructure costs. Officials said the contract’s final value could be higher and deliveries expected in 3 years.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...ehicle-tender/
Meanwhile we struggle on with the overweight and unusable Ajax
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/22-c...in-unresolved/
The ministry said in a statement it has budgeted some €1.7 billion ($1.8 billion), including value-added tax (VAT), to procure the vehicles and cover related infrastructure costs. Officials said the contract’s final value could be higher and deliveries expected in 3 years.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...ehicle-tender/
Meanwhile we struggle on with the overweight and unusable Ajax
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"The decision to retain Argus and modify her to act in the LSS role in rotation with the Bay class is something of a compromise." - well, yes...... tho I guess if you can keep B-52's in service for 60+ years buffing up Argos is possible. Keep the good folks of Falmouth happy anyway
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The Integrated Review, Defence in a Competitive Age and the Defence and Security Industrial Strategy
This is a House of Commons Committee report, with recommendations to government. The Government has two months to respond.
https://publications.parliament.uk/p...80/report.html
This is a House of Commons Committee report, with recommendations to government. The Government has two months to respond.
https://publications.parliament.uk/p...80/report.html
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These sort of reports come out every couple of years - and they always make the same points
The Govt either ignores them or make promises that "things will change" - but they never do
The Govt either ignores them or make promises that "things will change" - but they never do

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Britain is buying 500 dismounted Javelin missile launchers.
It’s already buying 200+ Kongsberg RS4 weapon stations that can also fire Javelin.
That’s a massive investment in anti-tank capability. Massive. And we’ll have air and ground launched Brimstone.
It’s already buying 200+ Kongsberg RS4 weapon stations that can also fire Javelin.
That’s a massive investment in anti-tank capability. Massive. And we’ll have air and ground launched Brimstone.
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makes sense - I doubt they have many left after supplying Ukraine
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I'm sure the Russian Defence Industry are working over time!
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Sir Humphrey:
The UK has issued its new National Strategy for Maritime Security - this is an important subject that is well worth a read.
PSL blog is up on why it matters and whether the RN needs ships or capabilities in future, particularly for survey ships...
https://bit.ly/3JXYGsV
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...urity-strategy
The UK has issued its new National Strategy for Maritime Security - this is an important subject that is well worth a read.
PSL blog is up on why it matters and whether the RN needs ships or capabilities in future, particularly for survey ships...
https://bit.ly/3JXYGsV
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...urity-strategy
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Thought provoking thread…..
This tweet, in one photos, demonstrates why Western airborne & amphibious power projection forces are obsolete as now designed.🧵…..
First photos of a 🇹🇷Turkish TB-2 UCAV at the Niamtougou Airport, 🇹🇬Togo. Another one to the list...
This tweet, in one photos, demonstrates why Western airborne & amphibious power projection forces are obsolete as now designed.🧵…..
First photos of a 🇹🇷Turkish TB-2 UCAV at the Niamtougou Airport, 🇹🇬Togo. Another one to the list...
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...-naval-forces/
UK, Poland to pool missile development for their land, naval forces
LONDON and WARSAW, Poland — Britain and Poland are investigating possible cooperation in the development of a surface-launched, long-range missile in the latest step towards strengthening their ties in the defense sector.
The two nations announced their intention to take a look at forming a partnership at the end of a visit Oct. 5 to Poland by British Defence Secretary Ben Wallace for talks with his Polish counterpart, Mariusz Błaszczak…….
UK, Poland to pool missile development for their land, naval forces
LONDON and WARSAW, Poland — Britain and Poland are investigating possible cooperation in the development of a surface-launched, long-range missile in the latest step towards strengthening their ties in the defense sector.
The two nations announced their intention to take a look at forming a partnership at the end of a visit Oct. 5 to Poland by British Defence Secretary Ben Wallace for talks with his Polish counterpart, Mariusz Błaszczak…….
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
NEW: Chancellor @Jeremy_Hunt opens up the possibility of @trussliz ditching a pledge to increase defence spending to 3% of national income by 2030. It’s unclear how @BWallaceMP would want to stay on as Defence Secretary if military funding doesn’t grow as much as promised.🧵
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