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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 04:21
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Just looked up the requirements for the DDS card:
  • HM Armed Forces Veteran - Any member that has served in HM Armed Forces for 24 hours or more
glad that clears up the definition!
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 09:49
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212man and adult members of the ATC!
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 10:04
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As we are on about discounts for anyone engineer related in the RAF or Ex, you may be unaware Halfords do a trade card that can save a fair bit of money, only flaw is you do not know until you pay at the till.

see

https://www.halfords.com/advice/moto...ard/trade-card

The Trade Card is available to all UK residents aged 18 or over and who are in mechanical or engineering professions, tradespeople (builders, plumbers etc) driving instructors and taxi drivers.

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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 11:15
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No-one appears to have considered one possible factor behind the veteran's card concept; that of the US support for their veterans. This used to give access to such things as military medical facilities and education (My knowledge is not very current); a significant benefit given the civilian cost of these services in the US. The equivalent services come free, or very much more cheaply, here in the UK. If one factors this in, all we are left with is a second DDS card. The only other use it would have is for claiming priority over civilian service users and are we really that precious?
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 23:50
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I am with isaneng.I dont want a penny discount because I formerly served in HM Forces. He lists many people who are at least as deserving as "veterans" but receive no such favourable treatment. If any ex service people are in financial distress they should certainly be looked after, but please dont include those of us who are not in need. And I certainly dont ever want anyone to "thank me for my service". Save that for the poor buggers who had their legs blown off in Afghanistan or are suffering from PTSD. Someone said I dont need to have one, but shouldnt bleat about it. Sorry, but JB is all about bleating, and I just think the whole thing is a bit tacky, so I feel quite entitled to bleat

P & N - do you not see the irony of praising the virtues of your card because it gets you some sort of discount on cruises?

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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 08:55
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TTN, why? I am with 5aday.

If you are suggesting my being able to afford a cruise means I don't need a discount?

​​​​​Consider this:

In an organisation to which I belong we can claim certain expenses which are funded by the members ' subscriptions. Now one person does not claim his expenses as his contribution to the organisation. Ultimately it means that each members subscription may be a few pence less.

OTOH I claimed every penny due. I was refunded a few months later. As my expenses had been paid from current cash I had no need of the refund. I paid the money directly to our charity account with a beneficent chancellor adding 25%.

I told the other, by not claiming his expenses, that he was reducing his ability to contribute to our charity.

The same principle applies to any discounts I can get.
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 09:32
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If you are suggesting my being able to afford a cruise means I don't need a discount?
Well yes I am. If you can afford to go on a cruise (I can too, although cruises are not my choice of a holiday) by definition you don't need a discount.

My point is that, rich or poor, why should we be offered discounts by virtue of our military service? As isaneng says we are no more entitled than many other groups, but I would extend his list of police, fire service etc. I could argue that someone who has swept the streets or collected the bins for 40 years has made an equal contribution to the public good as people like us who sat in the back of an aircraft and flew to interesting places at HM's expense. And yes I know some people's military experiences were far worse than that, but I don't need to be included with them so that I can get the discounts that maybe they deserve

Fat chance of there being a street sweepers' or dustbin collectors' discount card.
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 12:10
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav View Post
Fat chance of there being a street sweepers' or dustbin collectors' discount card.
You might be surprised. We just learnt about a blue light card and engineers discount, no doubt other trades bodies and unions too.

As it happens I forewent my 10% at Topps in favour of my tiler's 15%.
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 12:14
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Belonging to AARP (I don't) gets one discounts for just being old:

https://www.aarp.org/benefits-discou...its-photo.html
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 15:17
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Fat chance of there being a street sweepers' or dustbin collectors' discount card

Oh yes there is

Council Staff Discounts
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 17:17
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Where do you live? Round here bin collections round here were privatised years ago. Maybe that's why we get ours emptied every week not every 2, 3 or even 4 years which some councils do
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 18:17
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TTN, many discount system apply to hangers on, sorry associates.

BTW, you can also get additional credit with P&O as a share holder ☺
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 18:34
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I’m not sure if many folks pay book price for anything these days. Daughter works for Lucazade. Drag just gave the 7 seat family car to youngest son with four kids. Their car was BER. Eldest son works for Porsche. He could get me a few grand off list price. Apparently their policy is to not make profit from staff sales, just cover costs. Tempted but outside my budget. So coincidentally daughter gets e-mail regarding new car discounts. I think their motive was to encourage staff to move over from company cars to car allowance. She is taxed quite heavily on her company car. Even more now she has elevated within the company with commensurate wheels. (One of those with optional indicators!). Their scheme is open to family members. Just log on with the appropriate details to find as Ex MoD Civil Servant I qualify in my own right. Not open to Civil Servants in other departments. A few days later I have been validated and given a code. This qualifies me for 17% off certain Nissans.
Conversation with the dealer: do you want leather? Not really but I would like nice bright headlights. Ok that comes with the leather and all the tech. I figure that my budget would cover the top spec since without the discount l may have bought the base model.
CSMA or whatever they call themselves now could not even come close.
poor experience with the Blues and Twos card. Sister in Law has one. Got 10p off a £40 Pizza Order since everything was on special offer and always is. A bit like the Dfs sale!
when I used to drive around with the Army they always asked for Service Discount in one of the Burger Joints. He would always make a point in goading the other one who did not give Service discount. I think this was lost on the “would you like fries with that” servers.
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 19:36
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Any Porsche 917's in the offing?
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 21:17
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Drag indeed, BiL worked for BAE. BAE had a scheme with Rover so could get a staff discount but also for his family, parents, siblings, spouses, children. At the time of came to around 22 and probably many more.
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 02:22
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Originally Posted by Nigerian Expat Outlaw View Post
My DDS card got me £5,000 off a new car. I also use it when I go for lunch with my sons and grandchildren (one of my sons has also got one) for 20% off at Frankie & Benny's which the little ones love; free balloons etc.

Not sure what a Veterans ID card could offer in the way of additional benefits ? My surgery ask all registered patients for proof of service iaw government policy, although the struggle to get appointments isn't any easier. When I was in hospital undergoing treatment for cancer and malnututrition nobody asked whenther I was a Veteran and I can't see how the care I received would have been enhanced if they had.

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I was in hospital recently for a cancer operation and during my week stay I was questioned as part of an occupational health survey, where I was specifically asked if I had been in the Forces. This then led to further - and rather perjorative questions - about my assumed lifestyle. This included leading questions on alcohol and drugs intake, homelessness, criminal convictions, background (educational achievement) as well as questions on exposure to asbestos, ionising radiation and heavy metals. None of which were related to my Stage IV cancer.

The interviewer seemed surprised to find an-ex squaddy (as she colloquially referred to me) had a postgraduate education, no convictions and a normal family life. Curiously she did not elicit how long I’d served for.

I followed up this point later: as pointed out by others, one day of service can qualify one as a veteran. I am minded to recall that in my youth in New Zealand, a veteran was someone who’d returned from operations; indeed the NZ equivalent of RBL is the RSA - Returned Servicemen’s Association. (In Australia it's the Returned Services League).

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Old 4th Oct 2018, 08:36
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WUH, I bet you didn't change her perceptions. My uncle was a Digger. When we flew in to Amberley he was able to come on base and visit us as we passed through. He was amazed how we all pitched in refuelling and servicing, no officers with swagger sticks watching the erks. He had obviously gained an impression of British officers, private folk lore from Gallipoli.
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 15:43
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Never understood, well I have, the expectation of getting a discount once you become "ex " and are plain Mr given there are plenty around if you search for them plus a bus pass and senior rail card is more than adequate for transport savings.

Best discount I got when in was the "10p café " so named because it was run by a former W.O and anybody serving would get their meal for 10p.....but... adjacent to the till were a small selection of charity boxes......the offer was never abused by those who dined there Formerly located where the A449 meets the Junction of Death on the M4 for Newport, now a McJunk / hotel and housing estate. Also the location for several enjoyable encounters with the then driving school staff at a certain Welsh Station near Cardiff who used to get "a shade upset " at the 71MU driving standards....and uniform standards.

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Old 5th Oct 2018, 07:48
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veteran was someone who’d returned from operations
Absolutely! I will not use the term personally, I leave it for those who have been shot at etc and merit it.*

*That includes FZjnr.
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Old 5th Oct 2018, 07:56
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Originally Posted by FantomZorbin View Post
for those who have . . . at etc
And of course that etc is as open to interpretation as anything else.

As young and bold I thought nothing of some things that happened. Usually so brief that there was no brown underpants job.

I think a good percentage of my nav cohort never got their gratuity.
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