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Old 21st Jan 2023, 01:38
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Potentially huge deals ahead, but requires multinational approval, may be problematic if Turkey holds up NATO accession for Sweden and Finland.

EXCLUSIVE: Turkey exploring massive UK arms deal involving planes, ships and tank engines

• Two squadron of Eurofighter jets
• C-130J cargo planes
• Three frigates
• Engines for M-60 tanks

💈The discussions continue, they aren’t in final stage
Require Turkey to approve NATO expansion (Sweden, Finland, and others)>
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Old 21st Jan 2023, 07:43
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Require Turkey to approve NATO expansion (Sweden, Finland, and others)>
I hope no one in NATO sells them any new arms before they agreed to FIN + SWE joining NATO. There needs to be PRESSURE on Erdogan.
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Old 21st Jan 2023, 12:34
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Would the 'two squadrons of Eurofighter jets' be the Tranche 1 Typhoons slated for retirement? With mention of the C-130Js I wonder if it is.

But yes, no deal without the approval for Finland and Sweden first.
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Old 21st Jan 2023, 20:26
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Originally Posted by Martin the Martian
Would the 'two squadrons of Eurofighter jets' be the Tranche 1 Typhoons slated for retirement? With mention of the C-130Js I wonder if it is.

But yes, no deal without the approval for Finland and Sweden first.
Shouldn't Greece be allowed an opinion too?
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Old 25th Jan 2023, 21:39
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Apparently the Quran book burning fiasco in Stockholm was also paid for by a Russian agent.

​​​​​​​Erdogan has egg on his face. Hopefully Turkey responds by lifting its objection to Sweden's NATO membership and increased military aid to Ukraine.
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Turkish media reporting a Russian attack on the Turkish ship "Tuzla" in port at Kherson.

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https://www.defensenews.com/industry...ade-f-16-jets/

Turkish Aerospace, Aselsan ink $2B in deals to upgrade F-16 jets

ANKARA, Turkey — Turkish Aerospace Industries has signed two contracts worth nearly $2 billion with the country’s largest defense company to upgrade F-16 fighter jets.

The deals announced by Aselsan, a military electronics specialist, were for $1.2 billion and 20.7 billion liras (U.S. $789.2 million).

The Biden administration has backed Turkey’s desire to buy 40 new F-16s as well as modernization kits from the U.S. It’s a move some in Congress, most notably Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Menendez, D-N.J, have opposed over Turkey blocking NATO membership for Sweden, its human rights record, its relations with Greece and other concerns.

Neither TAI nor Aselsan revealed details of the contracts, inked July 13. But a government procurement official and sources with the businesses told Defense News that the contracts are related to a program to upgrade Turkey’s aging F-16s, starting with the Block 30 level.

The upgrade program will include a new mission computer, an active electronically scanned array radar and new avionic suites for about 150 Turkish F-16 aircraft. The program will also include new cockpit color displays, a new indigenous identification friend or foe system, a new system interface unit, a hydraulic fuel gauge, new radar warning receivers, and an inertial navigation system.

The backbone of the upgrade program is a subsystem dubbed Ozgur (”free” in English) that aims to develop and produce Turkey’s first AESA radar, which Aselsan officials hope will extend the flight time for some of the country’s F-16 aircraft by half, to 12,000 hours.

Per upgrade plans, the AESA radar will first be retrofitted onto the Akinci, a drone built by TAI; then on a batch of 36 F-16 Block 30 aircraft; and, in the longer term, the TF-X, Turkey’s first indigenous fighter jet in the making. Block 30 is the only F-16 model whose source codes are available to Turkey.

“This deal has two implications: One, it is part of Turkish efforts to balance Greece’s increasing air superiority over the Aegean Sea, especially by buying new French-made Rafales; and two, once [the upgrade is successful and the aircraft is] combat proven, it may pave the way for Aselsan and TAI to penetrate into the world’s large F-16 modernization market,” said Ozgur Eksi, who runs the media outlet TurDef.

In 2019, Turkey requested the Link 16 tactical data link, among other technology, for 199 F-16 jets. Then, acording to January 2023 media reports, the Biden administration “informally notified Congress of its intent to sell 40 new F-16s in the Block 70/72 Viper configuration (F-16Vs) and Viper upgrade packages for 79 existing fighters, along with 900 air-to-air missiles and 800 bombs, at an estimated total value of $20 billion,” a document from the Congressional Research Service noted.…
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The Biden administration has announced its approved a $US23 billion deal to sell F-16 warplanes to Turkey, after Ankara ratified Sweden’s Nato membership, the state department said.

The state department will now notify Congress of the agreement, as well as of a separate $8.6bn sale of 40 F-35s to Greece. Turkey will get 40 new F-16s and upgrades to 79 of the jets in its existing fleet, the state department said in a news release.

The powerful chairman of the Senate foreign relations committee, Democrat Ben Cardin, said Friday he would permit the F-16 sale to Turkey. “My approval of Turkey’s request to purchase F-16 aircrafts has been contingent on Turkish approval of Sweden’s Nato membership. But make no mistake: This was not a decision I came to lightly,” he said.

After the transfer of the formal notification by the US state department, Congress has 15 days to object to the sale, after which it is considered final. US officials do not expect the Congress to block either sale, despite criticism of Turkey by some members.

Athens meanwhile strongly opposed the sale due to unresolved territorial disputes with Turkey in the energy-rich Mediterranean region. The US agreement with Turkey hinged first on Athens not obstructing the sale, and Greece was simultaneously granted more advanced F-35s.
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