Will the UK leave NATO eventually?
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Will the UK leave NATO eventually?
Any real possibility of this occurring, within say 2-5 years? I was only thinking about the fallout from the so called BREXIT. If EU nations were difficult, or took from our view difficult positions against the UK in matters of new trade tariffs and future relationships.......my question is do you think a future UK leader would ever threaten to withdraw us from NATO?
Withdraw us out of spite against our former EU colleagues? Or use our position to remain within NATO as a bargaining chip?
* Fully concede we may shortly not even have a UK in its political sense for much longer anyway.
My own opinion for what its worth is yes, we may eventually be led to depart NATO if things don't go our way with Europe in the future..
Withdraw us out of spite against our former EU colleagues? Or use our position to remain within NATO as a bargaining chip?
* Fully concede we may shortly not even have a UK in its political sense for much longer anyway.
My own opinion for what its worth is yes, we may eventually be led to depart NATO if things don't go our way with Europe in the future..
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Nothing, but hey there is nowt like a bit of scaremongering 
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One word answer: "NO". Two word answer "ABSOLUTELY NOT". The UK was in NATO long before the EEC (and certainly long before the EU) was formed.
No - any future UK leader that wanted to withdraw us from NATO wouldn't be the UK leader for very long. Have we not just demonstrated that we are sick to the teeth of leaders that want to follow their own agenda and not listen?
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YS and the Greeks and the Turks won't agree to letting them back in. Now there is your connection EU-NATO.
What will influence UK's membership is the behaviour and attitude of European leaders within NATO fora -such as the Warsaw Summit at the end of next week. I expect there will be cold shoulders offered by some leaders, and will we see some Eurocentric capability groups being formed.
It won't force us to leave, but our relationship will become much more transactional.
It won't force us to leave, but our relationship will become much more transactional.
The real world security of Europe has depended on NATO since its formation. Nothing that has happened since has changed that. Nothing that has happened since has changed the nature of NATO, where some countries have been more reliable partners than others. What happens in NATO from now on will no doubt shadow the shifting alliances of European states, whether within or without the EU. More likely that those who have turned their backs before on NATO will do so again. That won't be the UK.
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Better question , will the US leave NATO if Trump somehow becomes the next president ?
The EU is not safe from implosion if things stay the way they are, if the likes of Junker, Schultz and Verhofstad get their way and even more power gets centralized in Brussels it is not inconceivable that the leave-EU parties in France, the Netherlands and other EU nations win the next national elections and the EU lose more member states that way.
Marie le Pen already stated that Europe will be a main theme in next years elections, and the anti Europe sentiments in France are bigger than they ever where in the UK.
The EU is not safe from implosion if things stay the way they are, if the likes of Junker, Schultz and Verhofstad get their way and even more power gets centralized in Brussels it is not inconceivable that the leave-EU parties in France, the Netherlands and other EU nations win the next national elections and the EU lose more member states that way.
Marie le Pen already stated that Europe will be a main theme in next years elections, and the anti Europe sentiments in France are bigger than they ever where in the UK.
If the UK Military continues to shrink...at what point does the question become moot?
If the UK Military continues to shrink...at what point does the question become moot?
CG
Edit: not a criticism btw
Edit the second: SAS, I thought you wrote 'US, not 'UK'! Disregard. Oh, you did!
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When they no longer have the nu-cular capability to destroy the whole world?
I recall reading that the Canadians, The US and another nation with ASW abilities had to hunt for a suspected sub operating off your shores recently.
Shrinkage...not just a bedroom issue.
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As far as I am aware, only two countries pay their rightful amount on defence, as requested by NATO. One is the US, naturally, and the other is that little offshore island, the UK. Don't go writing us off just yet.