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Hangarshuffle 25th Jun 2016 19:12

Will the UK leave NATO eventually?
 
Any real possibility of this occurring, within say 2-5 years? I was only thinking about the fallout from the so called BREXIT. If EU nations were difficult, or took from our view difficult positions against the UK in matters of new trade tariffs and future relationships.......my question is do you think a future UK leader would ever threaten to withdraw us from NATO?
Withdraw us out of spite against our former EU colleagues? Or use our position to remain within NATO as a bargaining chip?


* Fully concede we may shortly not even have a UK in its political sense for much longer anyway.


My own opinion for what its worth is yes, we may eventually be led to depart NATO if things don't go our way with Europe in the future..

Tourist 25th Jun 2016 19:46

You think the world works in a very odd way hangar...

hoodie 25th Jun 2016 19:56

I don't understand the basics of the question. Whatever has NATO got to do with the politics of the EU?

NutLoose 25th Jun 2016 20:13

Nothing, but hey there is nowt like a bit of scaremongering :)

Herod 25th Jun 2016 20:19

One word answer: "NO". Two word answer "ABSOLUTELY NOT". The UK was in NATO long before the EEC (and certainly long before the EU) was formed.

MOSTAFA 25th Jun 2016 20:22

No - any future UK leader that wanted to withdraw us from NATO wouldn't be the UK leader for very long. Have we not just demonstrated that we are sick to the teeth of leaders that want to follow their own agenda and not listen?

Yellow Sun 25th Jun 2016 20:26

The French of course left the military structure of NATO. I don't recall that we were too upset about that.

YS

t43562 25th Jun 2016 22:38

Would it be a better question to ask if the EU will leave NATO eventually?

Pontius Navigator 26th Jun 2016 07:10

YS and the Greeks and the Turks won't agree to letting them back in. Now there is your connection EU-NATO.

Whenurhappy 26th Jun 2016 07:26

What will influence UK's membership is the behaviour and attitude of European leaders within NATO fora -such as the Warsaw Summit at the end of next week. I expect there will be cold shoulders offered by some leaders, and will we see some Eurocentric capability groups being formed.

It won't force us to leave, but our relationship will become much more transactional.

Chugalug2 26th Jun 2016 07:39

The real world security of Europe has depended on NATO since its formation. Nothing that has happened since has changed that. Nothing that has happened since has changed the nature of NATO, where some countries have been more reliable partners than others. What happens in NATO from now on will no doubt shadow the shifting alliances of European states, whether within or without the EU. More likely that those who have turned their backs before on NATO will do so again. That won't be the UK.

Heathrow Harry 26th Jun 2016 08:04

Only if Corbyn gets in..................

Basil 26th Jun 2016 10:01


Only if Corbyn gets in..................
That was in the original draft of Alice but they decided it was just too silly . . . ;)

kbrockman 26th Jun 2016 10:25

Better question , will the US leave NATO if Trump somehow becomes the next president ?
The EU is not safe from implosion if things stay the way they are, if the likes of Junker, Schultz and Verhofstad get their way and even more power gets centralized in Brussels it is not inconceivable that the leave-EU parties in France, the Netherlands and other EU nations win the next national elections and the EU lose more member states that way.

Marie le Pen already stated that Europe will be a main theme in next years elections, and the anti Europe sentiments in France are bigger than they ever where in the UK.

MOSTAFA 26th Jun 2016 10:30

Or a better question would be are there rabbits on pluto

AreOut 26th Jun 2016 13:52

nope, I guess over 90% citizens of UK would be against it and it will stay like that for some time

SASless 26th Jun 2016 14:23

If the UK Military continues to shrink...at what point does the question become moot?

charliegolf 26th Jun 2016 16:26


If the UK Military continues to shrink...at what point does the question become moot?
When they no longer have the nu-cular capability to destroy the whole world?

CG

Edit: not a criticism btw

Edit the second: SAS, I thought you wrote 'US, not 'UK'! Disregard. Oh, you did!

West Coast 26th Jun 2016 18:47


When they no longer have the nu-cular capability to destroy the whole world?
Does it have to be that drastic?

I recall reading that the Canadians, The US and another nation with ASW abilities had to hunt for a suspected sub operating off your shores recently.

Shrinkage...not just a bedroom issue.

Herod 26th Jun 2016 19:36

As far as I am aware, only two countries pay their rightful amount on defence, as requested by NATO. One is the US, naturally, and the other is that little offshore island, the UK. Don't go writing us off just yet.


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