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Hi guys!
I am ALSO attending OASC in August for the pilot scholarship! I am arriving on the 11th, returning (I hope) the day before my AS Level results come through. Fun week huh? I have had all the advice I could possibly receive in my YEARS of asking questions. I also know RAFC Cranwell like the back of my hand having attended two lots of work experience there, a summer camp with the ATC some three years ago, and a gliding scholarship! I am returning to my second home not only in August, but next week for a conversion course (AGT 15) from the vigilant to the viking! Should be fun! Anyway, to all you guys out there waiting for THE letter, GOD I would sort of love to be in your position. At least you've got a more realistic chance. I am practically certain by the way that we only do part 1 of the selection, I heard it at my presentation, and read it on the RAF careers website. Remember, a good firm handshake will not go a miss when entering the room of doom. Good luck fellow military wannabes, The Mother Alligator.
I am ALSO attending OASC in August for the pilot scholarship! I am arriving on the 11th, returning (I hope) the day before my AS Level results come through. Fun week huh? I have had all the advice I could possibly receive in my YEARS of asking questions. I also know RAFC Cranwell like the back of my hand having attended two lots of work experience there, a summer camp with the ATC some three years ago, and a gliding scholarship! I am returning to my second home not only in August, but next week for a conversion course (AGT 15) from the vigilant to the viking! Should be fun! Anyway, to all you guys out there waiting for THE letter, GOD I would sort of love to be in your position. At least you've got a more realistic chance. I am practically certain by the way that we only do part 1 of the selection, I heard it at my presentation, and read it on the RAF careers website. Remember, a good firm handshake will not go a miss when entering the room of doom. Good luck fellow military wannabes, The Mother Alligator.
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Got an envelope this morning! After I had measured it - A4 size - I gave it with trembling hands to my girlfriend to read its contents.
It seems that I start IOT in October! Me a happy bunny! Hello to anyone else that's gonna be on course 200!
AL
It seems that I start IOT in October! Me a happy bunny! Hello to anyone else that's gonna be on course 200!
AL
Okay, completely off the topic, but can anyone tell me what the RAF fitness standard is for IOT? Apparently I will undergo a run test, a fitness test and a swimming test but unfortunately I wont be attending the familiarisation visit where we find out how our fitness is stacking up.
Cheers.
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Oasc was good for me, not really a big problem. I just went and gave it my best. Start on 201 IOT on 1 december, and looking forward to it.
My advice.
Simple one sentence to remember.
Play their game
Not yours, but theirs.
Whether that is being yourself or not is another thing.
Anyway, good luck and let us know ho you get on.
Later
Im off to practice running 1 1/2 miles in ten mins wearing para boots and long johns.
Lee
Long live the invasion of the body snatchers!
My advice.
Simple one sentence to remember.
Play their game
Not yours, but theirs.
Whether that is being yourself or not is another thing.
Anyway, good luck and let us know ho you get on.
Later
Im off to practice running 1 1/2 miles in ten mins wearing para boots and long johns.
Lee
Long live the invasion of the body snatchers!
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Well done Al Give it everything you've got and enjoy the experience. Just don't come back here in November and tell us you've failed the ironing test and give us 400 reasons why it's not your fault
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Just a quick question:
Does any body know if the mental arithmatic tests at OASC give you a set of multiple choice answers?
Any help would be gratefuly recieved. Cheers
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Does any body know if the mental arithmatic tests at OASC give you a set of multiple choice answers?
Any help would be gratefuly recieved. Cheers
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I did the whole bank of tests on Monday 8th July.
I can confirm that most of the mental arithmetic tests are multi-choice and, if not, it is a case of keying in an answer whilst doing something else. For example selecting a series of letters from the four options that you have had to memorise whilst doing some sums.
G
I can confirm that most of the mental arithmetic tests are multi-choice and, if not, it is a case of keying in an answer whilst doing something else. For example selecting a series of letters from the four options that you have had to memorise whilst doing some sums.
G
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gijoe, i was under the impression that all of the computer apptitude tests were individual i.e, instrument scanning, keeping the dot in the square, memoriseing numbers etc, rather than different things in the same test, perhaps i am wrong.
What sort of questions are asked in the mental arithmetic, an example and advice would be most appriciated
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TP172
What sort of questions are asked in the mental arithmetic, an example and advice would be most appriciated
Regards
TP172
The arithmetic questions vary considerably in difficulty. The first ones start off along the lines of....
Your aircraft is travelling 150mph, how long to travel 25 miles?
They then become more complicated such as...
Aircraft A leaves station A at 1100hrs travelling 350mph. 10 minutes later Aircraft B leaves station B travelling at 285mph. The stations are 600miles apart. At what time and how far from station B will the aircraft meet. (or something to that effect).
At the end of the day you are still doing no more than basic DST questions with a few complications thrown in. From what I remember this was about the only specific arithmetic exercise (though I am sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) so just practise a bunch load of DST questions and you should be home and hosed. As with most of the tests you will probably be thinking how hard it all seems and how much you are being fried, but relax - the tests are written to accomodate for the most intelligent individuals so you are not expected to get through them all.
Topgun, most of the aptitude tests are individual, however there is a specific test which measures ones ability to multi task. It does this by getting you to remember a sequence of letters whilst doing basic arithmetic (i.e 97+25=) and getting you to cancel out shapes that fly across the screen. From my experience (and I have had the pleasure of doing 3 lots of aptitude tests in 2 countries) I believe one cannot do a lot to enhance their scores at OASC. However practice some arithmetic and sharpen up your hand eye coordination on flight sim or the likes as this will greatly increase your confidence - if there is one quality that potential candidates lack most it is confidence.
Once again, best of luck to all heading up to OASC.
(ps. my spelling is not normally this bad, honest!)
Your aircraft is travelling 150mph, how long to travel 25 miles?
They then become more complicated such as...
Aircraft A leaves station A at 1100hrs travelling 350mph. 10 minutes later Aircraft B leaves station B travelling at 285mph. The stations are 600miles apart. At what time and how far from station B will the aircraft meet. (or something to that effect).
At the end of the day you are still doing no more than basic DST questions with a few complications thrown in. From what I remember this was about the only specific arithmetic exercise (though I am sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) so just practise a bunch load of DST questions and you should be home and hosed. As with most of the tests you will probably be thinking how hard it all seems and how much you are being fried, but relax - the tests are written to accomodate for the most intelligent individuals so you are not expected to get through them all.
Topgun, most of the aptitude tests are individual, however there is a specific test which measures ones ability to multi task. It does this by getting you to remember a sequence of letters whilst doing basic arithmetic (i.e 97+25=) and getting you to cancel out shapes that fly across the screen. From my experience (and I have had the pleasure of doing 3 lots of aptitude tests in 2 countries) I believe one cannot do a lot to enhance their scores at OASC. However practice some arithmetic and sharpen up your hand eye coordination on flight sim or the likes as this will greatly increase your confidence - if there is one quality that potential candidates lack most it is confidence.
Once again, best of luck to all heading up to OASC.
(ps. my spelling is not normally this bad, honest!)
Woops! Probably should have mentioned that the Aircraft are on a head to head track!
No worrys, heres my best shot.....
Ok, for the first 10mins only Aircraft A is moving (350mph) - in that time it would have travelled 58 miles. The distance between the Aircraft is now only 542 miles (600-58). With A/C A at 350mph and B at 285mph, the closing speed is now 635mph (350+285). From this point it will take (542miles/635mph) 51mins to meet. to find where they meet, best we use Aircraft B - It has been travelling for 51mins at 285mph so it has travelled 243 miles. VOILA! We have now answered the second part of our question.
So what time is it? It has been 51mins since B took off however A/C A took off 10mins prior at 1100hrs - a total of 61mins has elapsed. BINGO! Therefore our final answer is 1201hrs and 243 miles form station B (at least I hope that is the answer!)
Remember that this is at the higher end in terms of difficulty and there would have been a number of easier variations of this previously in the test. The actual test does use more user-friendly numbers - most times and speeds work out to be a multiple of 5 (this eliminates inaccuracies caused by rounding), but practice using oddball numbers and it will seem that much easier when you reach Cranwell.
Enjoy.
No worrys, heres my best shot.....
Ok, for the first 10mins only Aircraft A is moving (350mph) - in that time it would have travelled 58 miles. The distance between the Aircraft is now only 542 miles (600-58). With A/C A at 350mph and B at 285mph, the closing speed is now 635mph (350+285). From this point it will take (542miles/635mph) 51mins to meet. to find where they meet, best we use Aircraft B - It has been travelling for 51mins at 285mph so it has travelled 243 miles. VOILA! We have now answered the second part of our question.
So what time is it? It has been 51mins since B took off however A/C A took off 10mins prior at 1100hrs - a total of 61mins has elapsed. BINGO! Therefore our final answer is 1201hrs and 243 miles form station B (at least I hope that is the answer!)
Remember that this is at the higher end in terms of difficulty and there would have been a number of easier variations of this previously in the test. The actual test does use more user-friendly numbers - most times and speeds work out to be a multiple of 5 (this eliminates inaccuracies caused by rounding), but practice using oddball numbers and it will seem that much easier when you reach Cranwell.
Enjoy.
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AP, thanks for your help, its most appriciated, i suppose that there can only be a few variations in difficulty, i.e head to head (Quite difficult) and from A to B (straight forward).
Would i be right in saying that if you didnt do well on the more difficult examples on the day, it wouldnt really affect your chances of fast jet training?
Anyway had a trip to Coltishall today with a friend (chief tech), sat in the GR3 and loaded all the HUD, HDD etc, it was cool
Thanks again
Regards
TP172
Would i be right in saying that if you didnt do well on the more difficult examples on the day, it wouldnt really affect your chances of fast jet training?
Anyway had a trip to Coltishall today with a friend (chief tech), sat in the GR3 and loaded all the HUD, HDD etc, it was cool
Thanks again
Regards
TP172