Hawker Hunter Crash at Shoreham Airshow
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Might the pilot be prosecuted?
I have read allegations that the pilot began his manoeuvre at 200ft, instead of 500ft authorised for the display. If this is true, and it is shown to have contributed or caused the crash, might the pilot end up facing involuntary manslaughter charges?
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[QUOTE=Trim Stab;9115209]I have read allegations that the pilot began his manoeuvre at 200ft, instead of 500ft authorised for the display. If this is true, and it is shown to have contributed or caused the crash, might the pilot end up facing involuntary manslaughter charges?[/QUOTE
Let's hope that he was not guilty of an entry below his 500 feet gate.
Let's hope that he was not guilty of an entry below his 500 feet gate.
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This has been done to death already.....
My apologies, it was on the other thread.
I've never displayed as a civvy, but my understanding from what people are saying is that in civvy displaying it is acceptable, and normal, to begin a manoeuver from a flypast at 100-200' as long as the pitch up does not pass 30 degrees nose-up before the aircraft reaches the authorised height of 500' in this case.
This is purely what I have read on the other thread, rather than any first hand knowledge.
My apologies, it was on the other thread.
I've never displayed as a civvy, but my understanding from what people are saying is that in civvy displaying it is acceptable, and normal, to begin a manoeuver from a flypast at 100-200' as long as the pitch up does not pass 30 degrees nose-up before the aircraft reaches the authorised height of 500' in this case.
This is purely what I have read on the other thread, rather than any first hand knowledge.
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Coroner's Court, lawyers, AAIB, police etc. Let's leave it to the experts to decide on manoeuvres, errors or not, liability, etc etc etc. Rumours Network is fine but Speculation Network on such sensitive issues!
Sorry, I have remained silent too long.
You should know better than to post inflammatory stuff like that. If, if if. I could say more, but if you don't get it now my words will not help. I expected better. Maybe delete your message and I'll delete my reference to it.
Originally Posted by trim stab
I have read allegations that the pilot began his manoeuvre at 200ft, instead of 500ft authorised for the display. If this is true, and it is shown to have contributed or caused the crash, might the pilot end up facing involuntary manslaughter charges?
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Sorry, I have remained silent too long.
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Originally Posted by trim stab
I have read allegations that the pilot began his manoeuvre at 200ft, instead of 500ft authorised for the display. If this is true, and it is shown to have contributed or caused the crash, might the pilot end up facing involuntary manslaughter charges?
You should know better than to post inflammatory stuff like that. If, if if. I could say more, but if you don't get it now my words will not help. I expected better. Maybe delete your message and I'll delete my reference to it.
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Originally Posted by trim stab
I have read allegations that the pilot began his manoeuvre at 200ft, instead of 500ft authorised for the display. If this is true, and it is shown to have contributed or caused the crash, might the pilot end up facing involuntary manslaughter charges?
You should know better than to post inflammatory stuff like that. If, if if. I could say more, but if you don't get it now my words will not help. I expected better. Maybe delete your message and I'll delete my reference to it.
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But no point in promoting such ideas on the Internet. And thanks for copying and pasting the thought again. It's not the question that's the probloblem, it's repeated reference to entry height, among other things. You all seem very certain of prescribed "gates". You do not know the entry height (gate?) for the manoeuvre so stop quoting it as if you all do.
That's all I have to say about that.
That's all I have to say about that.
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CMil you are right. There is a miscomprehention around minimum fly by altitude and minimum aerobatic altitude. Convert to "agl" or "qfe" as you need. The run in was legal according to current regs and there is allowance for pulling up from there into a defined aerobatic manouver.
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I could care less what some of the woodworms here think but they should at least get their facts right.
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Get well soon AH. Last post on this thread until you get better, which I hope is soon.
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You are allowed to do a flypast at 200', at some point after that event you have to climb to 500' to complete a vertical display...Is it that point... I'll stop.
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Get well soon AH. Last post on this thread until you get better, which I hope is soon.
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You are allowed to do a flypast at 200', at some point after that event you have to climb to 500' to complete a vertical display...Is it that point... I'll stop.
But no point in promoting such ideas on the Internet. And thanks for copying and pasting the thought again. It's not the question that's the probloblem, it's repeated reference to entry height, among other things. You all seem very certain of prescribed "gates". You do not know the entry height (gate?) for the manoeuvre so stop quoting it as if you all do.
That's all I have to say about that.
That's all I have to say about that.
I don't know offhand of any precedents where a pilot has been prosecuted for deaths on the ground.
I am not "promoting" the idea - the police and CPS are not going to be the slightest bit swayed by comments on the internet.
I realise that some people on here probably know the pilot so are emotionally involved. I am sorry if my question is offensive to you.
You are allowed to do a flypast at 200', at some point after that event you have to climb to 500' to complete a vertical display...Is it that point... I'll stop.