Yemen.....2

[racedo]

Originally Posted by rattman

Theres a lot of footage going purported to be of the offensive that is months/years old. But there is some pretty much agreed to be a current.

I have no ability to read /speak but this apparently from the offensive you see the same burned out and overturned vehicles in some of the other footage

https://twitter.com/Sunkway_China/status/1178550389865512962

Apparently I cant post links yet, look for " Sunkway_China " on twitter

A lot seems to be current and was puzzled by the 3 - 4 vehicles all burning together but appears that KSA AF attacked and bombed their own vehicles when realised they captured killing many of their own mercaneries.

[weemonkey]

Losing face is to many of the Saudi elite worse than death.

Depending on how this is seen "at home" and any reactions to it, it wouldn't surprise me to see them doing something really drastic.

Thank heavens for the independent deterrent.

[racedo]

Originally Posted by weemonkey

Losing face is to many of the Saudi elite worse than death.

Depending on how this is seen "at home" and any reactions to it, it wouldn't surprise me to see them doing something really drastic.

Thank heavens for the independent deterrent.

MBS bodyguard died in a "personal dispute"........................ hmmmmmm

[ORAC]

https://sputniknews.com/world/202002...shed-in-yemen/

RSAF Tornado Down in Yemen

A spokesman for the Saudi-led coalition confirms military aircraft has crashed in Yemen. The statement comes a day after Yemen's Houthi militia reported downing a Saudi-led coalition Tornado warplane with a surface-to-air missile.......

A day earlier, Houthi spokeperson Brig. Gen. Yahya Saria reported that the militia had downed an "enemy jet" over northern Yemen using a new kind of cutting-edge surface-to-air missile.

Twitter

[Lonewolf_50]

Two guesses on the origin of that missile.

[RAFEngO74to09]

Definitely a RSAF Tornado - NSN of part of UK manufactured ECM system clearly visible in piece of wreckage at 1:42 on this video

You Tube

https://www.iso-group.com/NSN/5865-99-766-6768

[TEEEJ]

Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09

Definitely a RSAF Tornado - NSN of part of UK manufactured ECM system clearly visible in piece of wreckage at 1:42 on this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chUd8pkaFxg

https://www.iso-group.com/NSN/5865-99-766-6768

That is old footage from a 2018 shoot down over Yemen. From the video description.

Yemen air defense shot down a Saudi Tornado fighter (Made in UK) on January 7, 2018 over Sa'ada province.

https://www.aviation-safety.net/wiki....php?id=203972

[TEEEJ]

Yemen's Houthi militia have released a video.

[Tashengurt]

I wonder if the two dots of light that shoot off after the second impact at about 0:43 are the crew banging out?

[Easy Street]

Originally Posted by Tashengurt

I wonder if the two dots of light that shoot off after the second impact at about 0:43 are the crew banging out?

I’d say almost certainly yes. If you step through frame-by-frame you can actually see 5 bright spots leave the aircraft very quickly around that point. The first 3 all flare up brightly, accelerate away from the aircraft and fade quickly to leave a faint trail. I reckon these are the canopy jettison rockets and then the 2 seat rockets leaving in the command ejection sequence. Then there are 2 bright spots which don’t flare up, accelerate or fade, but drift away from the falling aircraft. I’d be guessing what these are; hot debris associated with ejection seat function seems a reasonable possibility.

I also don’t think this was after a ‘second’ impact. The first event at 0:15 looks to me like 3 flares being dispensed. These appear to seduce the green tracking box on the screen before it then jumps back to the aircraft (very advanced camera for a rag-tag bunch of rebels - it also recovers to track the falling aircraft after initially being seduced by the explosion) and notably they seem to be deployed at roughly the same time as the SAM would have been launched, which makes me wonder if they were deployed automatically by a system detecting it. It seems unlikely to me that the crew had much/any awareness as they would presumably have deployed more flares and/or manoeuvred.

[Onceapilot]

Tornado canopy not normally "jettisoned".

OAP

edit: It does go as part of the ejection sequence.

[Tashengurt]

.I also don’t think this was after a ‘second’ impact. The first event at 0:15 looks to me like 3 flares being dispensed. These appear to seduce the green tracking box on the screen before it then jumps back to the aircraft (very advanced camera for a rag-tag bunch of

I see what you mean. Much clearer without wine involved.
No rockets on Tornado canopies as far as I know. Just a big ass cutting cord to split it in half.

[superplum]

Originally Posted by Tashengurt

I see what you mean. Much clearer without wine involved.
No rockets on Tornado canopies as far as I know. Just a big ass cutting cord to split it in half.

Tornados' had/have two canopy jettison rocket motors; one fitted at each of the two front corners.

[Easy Street]

Originally Posted by Onceapilot

Tornado canopy not normally "jettisoned".

OAP

Stated with such confidence. And wrong.

If you insist on evidence, read paragraph 1.4.5.22 of this SI report. And I don’t see why you’d “air quote” someone when you’re evidently beyond your area of direct knowledge.

Originally Posted by Tashengurt

No rockets on Tornado canopies as far as I know. Just a big ass cutting cord to split it in half.

Much more polite but see reference above. The cord is there as a backup in case of jettison failure or for manual use when trapped during ground egress in situations where jettison would be inadvisable (eg in a HAS).

[Tashengurt]

Originally Posted by Easy Street

Stated with such confidence. And wrong.

If you insist on evidence, read paragraph 1.4.5.22 of this SI report. And I don’t see why you’d “air quote” someone when you’re evidently beyond your area of direct knowledge.



Much more polite but see reference above. The cord is there as a backup in case of jettison failure or for manual use when trapped during ground egress in situations where jettison would be inadvisable (eg in a HAS).

Ah, I thought they just had the splitter cord. Always thought that was a risky proposition!

[ORAC]

I’m presuming it was launched from Yemen, and nit direct from Iran which provides them...

Twitter

[ORAC]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...hahran-reports

Houthis fire missiles, drones at Saudi oil facilities

Yemen’s Houthi rebels fired drones and missiles at the heart of Saudi Arabia’s oil industry on Sunday, attacking a Saudi Aramco facility at Ras Tanura in an assault the kingdom said was aimed at the security and stability of the global energy supply.

Announcing the attacks, the Houthis also said they attacked military targets in the Saudi cities of Dammam, Asir and Jazan.

The Saudi energy ministry said an oil storage yard at Ras Tanura, the site of an oil refinery and the world’s biggest offshore oil loading facility, was attacked with a drone but there were no casualties or property loss.

“One of the petroleum tank areas at the Ras Tanura Port in the Eastern Region, one of the largest oil ports in the world, was attacked this morning by a drone, coming from the sea,” the ministry said in a statement released by the official Saudi Press Agency.

It added that shrapnel from a ballistic missile fell near Aramco’s residential compound in Dhahran......

Houthi military spokesman Yahya Sarea said the group fired 14 drones and eight ballistic missiles across the border with the kingdom in a “wide operation in the heart of Saudi Arabia”......

The United States mission in Saudi Arabia advised US citizens to take precautions after reports of possible attacks and explosion in the area of Dhahran, Dammam and Khobar in Saudi Arabia’s Eastern Province. The province is home to most of Saudi Aramco’s oil production and export facilities.....

The coalition said earlier on Sunday it intercepted 12 drones launched by the Houthis, including five that were fired towards the kingdom, and two ballistic missiles fired towards Jizan.

Separately, the coalition said it conducted air strikes on Houthi military targets in the Yemeni capital, Sanaa, and other regions and warned that “civilians and civilian objects in the Kingdom are a red line”.......

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/br...093808911.html

Oil prices soar above $70 after attack on Saudi Arabia key facilities

[ORAC]

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-became-a-bomb

The Ship That Became a Bomb

[Asturias56]

A bomb? Crude doesn't explode - tho it could easily leak. Remember the RAF trying to set fire to the Torrey Canyon?

[treadigraph]

Have you read the article Asturias? I'm no expert but it chimes with my understanding of such matters.