230 Sqn shenannigans?
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I agree. It's not as if we're talking about two young airmen down the NAAFI...
I agree. It's not as if we're talking about two young airmen down the NAAFI...
I find that rather patronising.
I find that rather patronising.
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NutLoose,
Looking back at my own past, I don't.
When I was a teenager I was rather different from that which I was required to become as a Royal Air Force officer and airline captain when 'laddish' behaviour would have resulted in, at the very least, a severe talking to or disciplinary procedure.
I find that rather patronising.
When I was a teenager I was rather different from that which I was required to become as a Royal Air Force officer and airline captain when 'laddish' behaviour would have resulted in, at the very least, a severe talking to or disciplinary procedure.
[/QUOTE]Having an RTA while over the DD limit surely isn't quite in same league as sticking the head on the dummy.[/QUOTE]
I think it could be more accurately described as a 'series' of RTA's, whilst driving an RAF vehicle, the OC's SWB if memory serves!
I think it could be more accurately described as a 'series' of RTA's, whilst driving an RAF vehicle, the OC's SWB if memory serves!
airpolice #13, Interesting. Some of the sentences seem appropriate or even lenient and others a little harsh, boys being boys, but, of course, we don't know the full circumstances.
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I find that rather patronising.
Unless head-butting has some previously un-noticed connection with your username.. !
Thing is, an airman could be a teenager, unused to drink or service protocol and might be seen to have some excuse. Senior officers (some of whom were once airmen, of course) certainly know better.
Note that I didn't write "should" know better.
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Nope I stand by what I said, you very rarely have airmen assaulting SNCO's which is what this is roughly equivalent to.
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It's amazing how little can evoke a CM at times...anyone remember the Brize $18 phone bill saga about 10 yrs ago?
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Nutloose wrote:
I think the current case involves something more like a Flight Sgt hitting a pair of Corporals. Not unheard of but very rare. Apart from anything else, they drink, mostly, in different bars.
"Honest laddies and Bonnie lasses, do not good gunners make" is an expression that I recall from early days of RAF Regiment training. The weapons instructor who told me that, in 1973, was confident that I was more suited to drinking coffee in Air Traffic than being out at the gate with a gun.
Looking at the stats I posted a link to, we need to expect the fighters to fight. But we really should be able to expect better of senior officers. Holding your drink, and knowing when to fur cough out of it when you see that others aren't holding theirs, are skills that should come with age. Those skills ought to be required for promotion as well.
Nope I stand by what I said, you very rarely have airmen assaulting SNCO's which is what this is roughly equivalent to.
"Honest laddies and Bonnie lasses, do not good gunners make" is an expression that I recall from early days of RAF Regiment training. The weapons instructor who told me that, in 1973, was confident that I was more suited to drinking coffee in Air Traffic than being out at the gate with a gun.
Looking at the stats I posted a link to, we need to expect the fighters to fight. But we really should be able to expect better of senior officers. Holding your drink, and knowing when to fur cough out of it when you see that others aren't holding theirs, are skills that should come with age. Those skills ought to be required for promotion as well.
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Nope I stand by what I said, you very rarely have airmen assaulting SNCO's which is what this is roughly equivalent to.
Holding your drink, and knowing when to fur cough out of it when you see that others aren't holding theirs, are skills that should come with age. Those skills ought to be required for promotion as well.
Fortunately, I never had to cope with " and another thing, you £**ing a*$ol*!"
Well Sir, it was like this Sir. I was marching smartly past the NAAFI at 0100 hours when this man rushed out and collided with the end of my fist, Sir. He fell to the ground and before I could halt, his nose contacted the toecap of my boot Sir. As I tried to help him to his feet, he suddenly came alert and sprang up hitting his right eye against my forehead - and th'as the honest truth Sir, Gord 'elp me!
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O D, reminds me of an airman being returned to Sek Kong by the RMP, at the subsequent orderly room the RMP in charge was asked about the injuries the airman had received, the reply was along the lines of " Sir we had the suspect in the rear of the landrover, I thought he was attempting to escape and shouted STOP, my driver misunderstood and braked causing SAC X to hit his back on the buklhead, sustaining the bruising to his back, I said carry on and the suspect fell and hit his face on the tailgate as the vehicle moved away sharply.
All true, and I suspect not the first time either
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All true, and I suspect not the first time either
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Had the pleasure of attending the Ladies Guest Night at Gut when a certain Helo Sqn boss decided to try his hand at 'MT Coach Rally Cross' around the Officers Mess square - bending shed loads of tax-free Golf GTi's (helo pilots) and Porsche's (Harrier mates). Luckily no one was hurt....and even the Scribblies second-hand Vauxhall Vectra's were soon back on the strasse.............
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a certain Helo Sqn boss decided to try his hand at 'MT Coach Rally Cross'
But the 1* and HK bit is right!
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I wasn't there 4ROCK - it was just after my Gutersloh time - but I always understood it was the OC's (i.e. - his) SWB Landy.
Shy and CG would have been there at the time I think and might know for sure - but memories of Gut D-I-Ns were often somewhat hazy..........
Shy and CG would have been there at the time I think and might know for sure - but memories of Gut D-I-Ns were often somewhat hazy..........