230 Sqn shenannigans?
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Agreed. He wasn't guilty, he never was. I hope that those who falsely claimed against him will now be prosecuted with the full might of military law....but I doubt that will happen. He lost his Sqn, he may get another chance but it will still affect his career. Loyalty goes both ways. Good luck Wg Cdr Baron, it would be a pleasure to fly with you again 
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Any link to the result and/or a report? AB was known to me and to (at least!) one of the Teeterettes.......
They were aware of the CM and will be pleased with the result.
Couldn't find anything on Google.
They were aware of the CM and will be pleased with the result.
Couldn't find anything on Google.
I doubt he will get his sqn back - the new chap is well settled and a Nav to boot!
There has always been a problem with the British justice system and it is coming to the fore again with the recent shed load of ancient sexual claims. The accused is named, the accuser is not - that can't right. We have seen recently a number of accusers being prosecuted themselves for making false claims.
That said, a complaint must be investigated and the prosecuting authority must have had reasonable grounds to believe that a conviction could be secured based on the evidence offered, otherwise it would not have gone to trial. In the interim, the person being investigated cannot remain in post because, unlike civvy street, the accused and his accusers live and work in the same place.
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There has always been a problem with the British justice system and it is coming to the fore again with the recent shed load of ancient sexual claims. The accused is named, the accuser is not - that can't right. We have seen recently a number of accusers being prosecuted themselves for making false claims.
That said, a complaint must be investigated and the prosecuting authority must have had reasonable grounds to believe that a conviction could be secured based on the evidence offered, otherwise it would not have gone to trial. In the interim, the person being investigated cannot remain in post because, unlike civvy street, the accused and his accusers live and work in the same place.
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Nothing to stop him now suing them for loss of potential earnings, rank etc?
I would insist any mention to the Court Marshal is expunged from his records etc, because like it or not, even though found not guilty, it will still follow him around like a bad fart..
I would insist any mention to the Court Marshal is expunged from his records etc, because like it or not, even though found not guilty, it will still follow him around like a bad fart..
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I would insist any mention to the Court Martial is expunged from his records etc
...... and equally sadly, despite the verdict, there will be those who say "no smoke without fire"
Isn't it about now that someone mentions the tales I used to hear of Naval Officers who were CM'ed, and as a result lost seniority which put them back into the promotion bracket, and they were then subsequently promoted.....
Or was that a myth?
Or was that a myth?
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Or was that a myth?
In 1986, while working on the Naval Staff at the Ministry of Defence, West left documents detailing large cuts to the Navy on a canal towpath. These documents were recovered and then published by a journalist from the Mail on Sunday. At a subsequent court martial West pleaded guilty to charges of negligence and breaching security.He explained that they had fallen from his coat pocket whilst walking a friend's dog. West was issued with a severe reprimand, the second lightest sentence available. The severe reprimand that he received was time expired before he became eligible for promotion to flag rank.
Yes, the RN did have people who forfeited seniority and moved back into the promotion zone of Lt Cdr to Cdr and that was when the zone was clearly defined and I understand no longer operates
The Navy also had "The Feast of the Passover". This was a thrash held when one was passed over and hence moved out of the promotion zone.
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The Navy also had "The Feast of the Passover". This was a thrash held when one was passed over and hence moved out of the promotion zone.
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Just come across this again - good to read.
Recollect attending a predominantly mil Burns Supper where a guest (I suspect not mil) took exception to one of the speakers who, I can assure you, was very moderate in his content and delivery. Fortunately matters did not progress beyond words at the end of the dining room.
Nowt as queer as fowk.
Recollect attending a predominantly mil Burns Supper where a guest (I suspect not mil) took exception to one of the speakers who, I can assure you, was very moderate in his content and delivery. Fortunately matters did not progress beyond words at the end of the dining room.
Nowt as queer as fowk.
