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Be careful what you post - some less restrained individuals have been on the receiving end of "the knock".
Woolwich murder sparks anti-Muslim backlash
Woolwich murder sparks anti-Muslim backlash
Changes in society arn't all for the better & I wasn't defending the left or right or attacking you as an individual,but if you believe its all the left or right your missing the point.
If you firstly accept the premise that society exists (I do),it isn't just made up of politicians (although they can profoundly affect it).
It's individuals,my basic philosophy is to do unto others.
If I see people doing awful things, I react to them as individuals I don't damn whole religions or race's.
If you firstly accept the premise that society exists (I do),it isn't just made up of politicians (although they can profoundly affect it).
It's individuals,my basic philosophy is to do unto others.
If I see people doing awful things, I react to them as individuals I don't damn whole religions or race's.
Last edited by woptb; 25th May 2013 at 11:44.
If you consider him to be a true representative of a major, worldwide religion, I would seriously question your judgement
I stated a simple and true fact :-
Overlooking completely the established fact that they were self-proclaimed and known muslims !
Overlooking completely the established fact that they were self-proclaimed and known muslims !
Some serious leaping and hopping going on here today !!
Watch the full video or read the transcript, then come back and tell me precisely what it means.
So ergo all Muslims are murderous scumbags ? If not,then the fact that they were Muslims means precisely what ?
Weird ! No leaping or hopping.
Those people were & are scum for what they did. I'll re-phrase the question;the fact the're muslims means precisely what ? You seem to be trying to articulate something,what is it ?
Those people were & are scum for what they did. I'll re-phrase the question;the fact the're muslims means precisely what ? You seem to be trying to articulate something,what is it ?
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Struggling to see where you are going with this so let me wind back a bit.
Post 142 Cows getting bigger states :-
Based ot the muslim spout from the muslim perpetrator, I reply in post 145 :-
So, what now ?
PS. Make this quick, I am off out for a bike ride shortly.
Post 142 Cows getting bigger states :-
As for the Woolwich chaps - criminals, nothing more.
Overlooking completely the established fact that they were self-proclaimed and known muslims !!
PS. Make this quick, I am off out for a bike ride shortly.
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They are islamofascists,believe in an empty,false ideoolgy & are muslims. They committed a heinous act against a young soldier,who absolutely didn't deserve it,but it doesn't mean all muslims or the muslim faith is evil.
As a former servicemen, from a service family (I have a brother in Afghanistan & son about to join the RN,) who has lived all over the world. I have have met many tw@ts of many races & religions, I try not to base my feelings of dislike on race or religion. It seems some individuals on this thread are doing prcisely the opposite & i can never agree with that.
RIP Lee Rigby
As a former servicemen, from a service family (I have a brother in Afghanistan & son about to join the RN,) who has lived all over the world. I have have met many tw@ts of many races & religions, I try not to base my feelings of dislike on race or religion. It seems some individuals on this thread are doing prcisely the opposite & i can never agree with that.
RIP Lee Rigby
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Ref post145; Choudary was born and raised here, as he pointed out on a sky news interview the other day.
The women who protected and tried to comfort Drummer Rigby, and the woman who confronted the attacker deserve recognition. While we have women like that in Britain, the terrorist just isn't going to win.
The women who protected and tried to comfort Drummer Rigby, and the woman who confronted the attacker deserve recognition. While we have women like that in Britain, the terrorist just isn't going to win.
Ref post145; Choudary was born and raised here, as he pointed out on a sky news interview the other day.
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El G, that's not a big if, that's just an ordinary if. If you don't understand the point - I think it was well made.
Being a Muslim does not mean being a murderer. It may surprise you to learn that non-muslims can also be murderers. For instance:
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Being a Muslim does not mean being a murderer. It may surprise you to learn that non-muslims can also be murderers. For instance:
- Beverley Allitt – aka "Angel of Death"; paediatric nurse who killed four babies in her care and injured at least nine others; sentenced to life imprisonment in 1991.
- Robert Black – Scottish schoolgirl killer; convicted of three murders, suspected of many more.
- Ian Brady and Myra Hindley – aka "Moors Murderers"; murdered five children, aged between 10 and 17 and buried them in Saddleworth Moor.
- Donald Neilson – aka "Black Panther; killed four people, including heiress Lesley Whittle.
- Dennis Nilsen – killer of 15 (possibly 16) men between 1978 and 1983.
- Colin Norris – nurse convicted of killing four patients in Leeds hospitals.
- George Joseph Smith – aka "The Brides in the Bath"; killer of three women.
- John Straffen – child killer and Britain's longest serving prisoner until his death on November 19, 2007.
- Fred West and Rosemary West – aka "House of Horrors"; she was convicted of 10 murders; both are believed to have tortured and murdered at least 12 young women between 1967 and 1987, many at the couple's home in Gloucester; he committed suicide in 1995 while awaiting trial.
- Steve Wright – aka "The Suffolk Strangler" or "The Ipswich Ripper"; killed 5 women in six weeks around Ipswich in late 2006.
- Graham Young – aka "The Teacup Poisoner"; killed three people from 1962 to 1971.
Rgd SOS
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Excuse me for being blunt, but are you really trying to say that I think that being a muslim makes one a murderer and that somehow I am unaware that non muslims ealso capable of murder.
We are getting a bit, well, basic here are we not
We are getting a bit, well, basic here are we not
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Police Armed? OMG
Still trying to figure out why British police are not trusted to carry fire arms. Despite what the mainsteam media write, in the USA thousands of crimes are prevented each year by citizens with concealed carry permits. Too bad one of them wasn't nearby to save this young soldier's life.
Petercwelch,
If all our policemen were armed, they still wouldn't have saved him unless one or more of them happened to be there when this happened. Given that you and I both live in countries where we can get a pizza to our doors faster than a cop - on occassions - I think you may see what I mean.
If all our policemen were armed, they still wouldn't have saved him unless one or more of them happened to be there when this happened. Given that you and I both live in countries where we can get a pizza to our doors faster than a cop - on occassions - I think you may see what I mean.
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Excuse me for being blunt, but are you really trying to say that I think that being a muslim makes one a murderer
woptb, I was going to prefix this post using the words "sorry but" or similar, but I would have been lying.
Leaps to conclusion of the nature and quality of yours are more akin to those heard in a primary school or kindergarten.
Go away and bother someone else you silly fellow
Leaps to conclusion of the nature and quality of yours are more akin to those heard in a primary school or kindergarten.
Go away and bother someone else you silly fellow