Bagram Crash 29 Apr 13 - Video Footage
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This is what the wife of one of the crew posted on The Aviation Herald.
My husbands death
By Linda Garrett on Tuesday, Apr 30th 2013 23:14Z
My ex husband was a mechanic on this plane. I appreciate the person(s) who filmed the last few seconds of my husbands life. I and it makes me feel the raw pain and fear he must've felt in those last few seconds of his life. It is something I can keep for remembrance of his dedication and love for he job he worked at for 23 years. It was truly his first love. My life is forever changed by this lost, and now his daughters must grow up without his love and support. God speed and fly high my love, i'll see you some day soon......
By Linda Garrett on Tuesday, Apr 30th 2013 23:14Z
My ex husband was a mechanic on this plane. I appreciate the person(s) who filmed the last few seconds of my husbands life. I and it makes me feel the raw pain and fear he must've felt in those last few seconds of his life. It is something I can keep for remembrance of his dedication and love for he job he worked at for 23 years. It was truly his first love. My life is forever changed by this lost, and now his daughters must grow up without his love and support. God speed and fly high my love, i'll see you some day soon......
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ch5120.
No, it hasn't been shown... not once.
I watched all 3 morning national network shows both Monday morning and Tuesday morning, and 2 of the 3 national evening news shows the same evenings.
No mention of the accident at all, much less a showing of the video.
No, it hasn't been shown... not once.
I watched all 3 morning national network shows both Monday morning and Tuesday morning, and 2 of the 3 national evening news shows the same evenings.
No mention of the accident at all, much less a showing of the video.
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From: Australia
A load shift on take off, always can bring on a tail down situation, which in turn can mean that one gets into a non recoverable attitude.
Shame that the crew were helpless.
So sad so very sad.
Regards
Col
Shame that the crew were helpless.
So sad so very sad.
Regards
Col
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Im in a layover in Auckland and they played a clip from the video on the news here just now, whilst saying it 'could be a fake video'. Looks a real enough stall/wingdrop to me and Im sure the clip is being aired around the world if its being shown here.
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TO POST THE VIDEO OR NOT TO POST
I wish to support LoneWolf_50. Those whom choose to criticize his posting in regard to this horrific crash seem to ignore the fact that the footage has gone viral on the internet and on TV News worldwide.
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Amazed that the sound does not seem to include comments until well after the accident.
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Amazed that the sound does not seem to include comments until well after the accident
Old Fella: thank you sir.
Just to be clear, I have not posted any video, but I am grateful to those who posted the links here.
One might ask: how did that video get out of that camera and onto the web so quickly?
I wonder if anyone is in trouble over that. LiveLeak is well named.
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By the way... I finally saw the first mention of the crash on network news.
The Today show (NBC morning news) announced that the names of those killed have been released, and showed the video once without comment other than an initial warning of disturbing content. They then went on to the next story without giving the names, just that 6 of the deceased were from Michigan and the 7th was from Kentucky.
For full disclosure, this link includes the names: Video: Boeing 747 crash at Bagram Airfield military base kills 7
The Today show (NBC morning news) announced that the names of those killed have been released, and showed the video once without comment other than an initial warning of disturbing content. They then went on to the next story without giving the names, just that 6 of the deceased were from Michigan and the 7th was from Kentucky.
For full disclosure, this link includes the names: Video: Boeing 747 crash at Bagram Airfield military base kills 7
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It was pretty horrific to watch and I fear I will think of it next time I take off, particularly if it's in a 747. Silly, I know, but human nature to do so.
I don't see any value in its being posted here as it's out in the public domain, on TV, and so on. By the same criterion, I don't see any harm in posting it here either, nobody has to watch it.
I would not have wanted to be the first person to post it.
Very tragic and one can only hope that, as with so many accidents, the results of the enquiry will help to ensure that, whatever the cause, it doesn't happen again.
I don't see any value in its being posted here as it's out in the public domain, on TV, and so on. By the same criterion, I don't see any harm in posting it here either, nobody has to watch it.
I would not have wanted to be the first person to post it.
Very tragic and one can only hope that, as with so many accidents, the results of the enquiry will help to ensure that, whatever the cause, it doesn't happen again.
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Although 'load shift' is strongly rumoured to be the cause of this accident, there is always the possibility of incorrectly stated load weights.
Years ago, a C-130 containing military vehicles nearly sat on its bum when the ramp was raised, because one of said vehicles had been stuffed full of contraband by some squaddie and was far heavier than the manifest stated. As luck would have it, the vehicle was right at the back of the cargo area...
Mass and balance and insecure loads must be the ever-present nightmare of the cargo flier. One of the more graphic, fortunately survivable, descriptions can be found in Ernest Gann's Fate is the Hunter when several tons of steel radio towers became loose during his take-off in a C-47, sliding to the back of the aircraft....
Years ago, a C-130 containing military vehicles nearly sat on its bum when the ramp was raised, because one of said vehicles had been stuffed full of contraband by some squaddie and was far heavier than the manifest stated. As luck would have it, the vehicle was right at the back of the cargo area...
Mass and balance and insecure loads must be the ever-present nightmare of the cargo flier. One of the more graphic, fortunately survivable, descriptions can be found in Ernest Gann's Fate is the Hunter when several tons of steel radio towers became loose during his take-off in a C-47, sliding to the back of the aircraft....
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I just wonder if something similar to the Hastings El Adem 1961 crash happened ... I was serving at Nicosia at the time and story was that it was a runaway captain's seat.
Never heard the full version.
Never heard the full version.
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Doubt it was a cargo shift. Waiting till the investigation is done, but my
bet was the load was well out of limits when the jet got airborne.
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From: #3117# Ppruner of the Year Nominee 2005
This must be the understatement of the year/decade! Armchair PPruner at his best!
