Here it comes: Syria
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That doesn't make SAS excitable, in fact, quite the opposite... He's so laid back he'll only converse with intellects that exceed 85-90 unless the individual is also respectable. He cuts off those that might make him excited....
You should try it...
That doesn't make SAS excitable, in fact, quite the opposite... He's so laid back he'll only converse with intellects that exceed 85-90 unless the individual is also respectable. He cuts off those that might make him excited....
You should try it...
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Tom:
I'm sorry... I don't watch that mindless, mass debilitating television. I had to look up "The Big Bang Theory"... I'm sure it's hilarious. Not really quality comedy though is it, but each to their own, I'm sure you giggle uncontrollably. Is it the "canned laughter" that initiates that little tickle in your throat?
I waste my time engaging my daughter in things that would educate her... As I said, each to their own...
Of course, right now, I'm watching Football... The American version....
Oh bless AA its a quote from The Big Bang Theory - sorry over your head.
I waste my time engaging my daughter in things that would educate her... As I said, each to their own...
Of course, right now, I'm watching Football... The American version....
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"Anyway where is Batman?"
Isn't he right next to YOU Robin ?
Isn't he right next to YOU Robin ?
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Tom:
I'm sorry... I don't watch that mindless, mass debilitating television. I had to look up "The Big Bang Theory"... I'm sure it's hilarious. Not really quality comedy though is it, but each to their own, I'm sure you giggle uncontrollably. Is it the "canned laughter" that initiates that little tickle in your throat?
I waste my time engaging my daughter in things that would educate her... As I said, each to their own...
Of course, right now, I'm watching Football... The American version....
I'm sorry... I don't watch that mindless, mass debilitating television. I had to look up "The Big Bang Theory"... I'm sure it's hilarious. Not really quality comedy though is it, but each to their own, I'm sure you giggle uncontrollably. Is it the "canned laughter" that initiates that little tickle in your throat?
I waste my time engaging my daughter in things that would educate her... As I said, each to their own...
Of course, right now, I'm watching Football... The American version....
Oh dear, I feel so unworthy now! It's actually filmed in front of a live audience so no cans - but that is a trivial observation. Don't feel that educating the yung uns is ever a waste of your time; but as you say to each their own personal philosophy. American version of football eh, who would have though
Anyway, back to Syria...
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That doesn't make SAS excitable, in fact, quite the opposite... He's so laid back he'll only converse with intellects that exceed 85-90 unless the individual is also respectable. He cuts off those that might make him excited....
You should try it...
You should try it...
That Russian article Eclectic posted is quite interesting.
80 per cent of the Syrian air defence arsenal is `obsolete'.
That piece certainly puts paid to the claims of a very modern and networked AD network.
80 per cent of the Syrian air defence arsenal is `obsolete'.
That piece certainly puts paid to the claims of a very modern and networked AD network.
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Someone's attempt at an infographic of the naval disposition: http://i.imgur.com/8dcb00X.jpg
At the rate he's going he'll soon only be seeing his own posts.
Now DP....if I were an excitable type perhaps I might have made a rash decision re your continued longevity upon my screen....but as I am not....I have not.
The way to my Peanut Gallery is not by having a differing view or opinion.....it is all contingent to the manner in which it is rendered.
If we did not differ on topics....how boring it would be.
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Originally Posted by TomJoad
So the acid test is whether the crime is not against property rather than humanity - humanity falling below the bar, surely not!.
Anyway,
Originally Posted by TomJoad
Legality by what measure ?
My own view is that until the head shed UN decrees that foreign intervention is legal, we should keep our beaks out. If, on the other hand, yer man Assad was to be daft enough to make a direct offensive threat to a NATO Member (and not simply responding in principle to a threat made by a NATO Member), that becomes a whole new argument.
The German BND says now that Assad did not order the Chemical Weapon Attack....or at least their intercepts do not prove he did.
Now how does this alter the situation?
Does this become a situation that Assad should address, perhaps with UN assistance?
Is there a deal that can be struck between the USA/UK/France/China/Russia that will stop the march to War and return this to the UN for discussion?
Syria chemical weapons attack not ordered by Assad, says German press | World news | theguardian.com
Now how does this alter the situation?
Does this become a situation that Assad should address, perhaps with UN assistance?
Is there a deal that can be struck between the USA/UK/France/China/Russia that will stop the march to War and return this to the UN for discussion?
Syria chemical weapons attack not ordered by Assad, says German press | World news | theguardian.com
Someone's attempt at an infographic of the naval disposition: http://i.imgur.com/8dcb00X.jpg
My most City's most Liberal Newspaper published this Editorial. It pretty well sums up the local feelings on the proposed strike Obama is trying to push.
When he loses the Journal's Editorial Board....folks he is in deep Doo-Doo!
When he loses the Journal's Editorial Board....folks he is in deep Doo-Doo!
President Obama’s breathtaking bumbling toward war must end. Congress should nix his request for approval of using military force in Syria. And once Congress says no, Obama should forget any idea of going ahead with a strike anyway.
There’s been widespread opposition across our land to a strike, with people from the far left to the far right agreeing that it would be lunacy. Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry can’t even supply clear answers about the ramifications of a potential strike, including what their end game would be. They say a strike would not lead to war, but there are no guarantees.
We mourn the deaths of more than 1,400 Syrians by chemical weapons, allegedly dispensed on orders from Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad. But we’d grieve a lot more over the deaths of U.S. troops and the “collateral damage” deaths of Syrian civilians, as would almost certainly happen if our country strikes Syria. Bombing would also create more unrest throughout the Middle East and more terror threats against this country. And Russia would not take kindly to a strike against its friend Syria.
Our country would face all those prospects almost alone, with few countries backing us, and certainly not the U.N. We’d be entering another country’s civil war. And many of the rebels fighting Assad are said to be aligned with al-Qaida, the very terrorists who wreak carnage on our overseas troops.
We endorsed President Obama in 2012 and have often supported him on this page. But we strongly disapprove of his handling of the whole Syrian situation. He set the red line over the use of chemical weapons in Syria (even though he said last week that he didn’t set it, the world did). Then, once evidence of that use was produced, he was uncertain of what to do, finally throwing the matter to Congress.
He’s spoken in detail about how a strike might go down, telegraphing potential strategy to Assad, giving the dictator plenty of time to load potential target sites with women and children. An American bomb hitting one of those sites would be a nightmare.
The American people aren’t stupid. They learned well from President George W. Bush’s actions against Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein: a rush to war on faulty reasons with no end game in sight. Now many Americans are rightly saying: not again.
Congress must hear the people, say no to a strike and demand that Obama pursue all other options, including persuading the U.N. to take economic sanctions against Syria.
If Congress says no to a strike, we believe the president will realize he can’t go this one alone. He’ll lose face. But that’s a far better outcome than American troops losing their lives in another country’s civil war.
There’s been widespread opposition across our land to a strike, with people from the far left to the far right agreeing that it would be lunacy. Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry can’t even supply clear answers about the ramifications of a potential strike, including what their end game would be. They say a strike would not lead to war, but there are no guarantees.
We mourn the deaths of more than 1,400 Syrians by chemical weapons, allegedly dispensed on orders from Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad. But we’d grieve a lot more over the deaths of U.S. troops and the “collateral damage” deaths of Syrian civilians, as would almost certainly happen if our country strikes Syria. Bombing would also create more unrest throughout the Middle East and more terror threats against this country. And Russia would not take kindly to a strike against its friend Syria.
Our country would face all those prospects almost alone, with few countries backing us, and certainly not the U.N. We’d be entering another country’s civil war. And many of the rebels fighting Assad are said to be aligned with al-Qaida, the very terrorists who wreak carnage on our overseas troops.
We endorsed President Obama in 2012 and have often supported him on this page. But we strongly disapprove of his handling of the whole Syrian situation. He set the red line over the use of chemical weapons in Syria (even though he said last week that he didn’t set it, the world did). Then, once evidence of that use was produced, he was uncertain of what to do, finally throwing the matter to Congress.
He’s spoken in detail about how a strike might go down, telegraphing potential strategy to Assad, giving the dictator plenty of time to load potential target sites with women and children. An American bomb hitting one of those sites would be a nightmare.
The American people aren’t stupid. They learned well from President George W. Bush’s actions against Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein: a rush to war on faulty reasons with no end game in sight. Now many Americans are rightly saying: not again.
Congress must hear the people, say no to a strike and demand that Obama pursue all other options, including persuading the U.N. to take economic sanctions against Syria.
If Congress says no to a strike, we believe the president will realize he can’t go this one alone. He’ll lose face. But that’s a far better outcome than American troops losing their lives in another country’s civil war.
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if you read "Legacy of Ashes" and the history of the FBI an entirely plausible situation, repeated many times in history, is that the president draws a line in the sand.
said event occurs as a CIA false flag exercise.
Assad denies that the country ever stepped over the president's line.
president drums up UN support and then sends in the military.
american commercial interests **** over the country concerned and everyone makes a handsome profit.
has Qatar really been trying to overthrow Assad to push a natural gas pipeline through Syria to Europe to knock off the russian gas supply monopoly?
when the hatred of the world turns full focus on the americans it is doubtful that they will have a friend in the entire world.
said event occurs as a CIA false flag exercise.
Assad denies that the country ever stepped over the president's line.
president drums up UN support and then sends in the military.
american commercial interests **** over the country concerned and everyone makes a handsome profit.
has Qatar really been trying to overthrow Assad to push a natural gas pipeline through Syria to Europe to knock off the russian gas supply monopoly?
when the hatred of the world turns full focus on the americans it is doubtful that they will have a friend in the entire world.
Perhaps Obama, McCain and Kerry should send themselves a TLAM or two to 'punish' the US for its own use of chemical weapons in Viet Nam:
From the BBC:
See BBC News - London surgeons help 'children of Agent Orange' if your Internet access so permits.
From the BBC:
London surgeons help 'children of Agent Orange'.
The Vietnam War ended nearly 40 years ago, but the casualties continue as birth defects plague the country.
There are claims that thousands of children continue to be born with horrific facial deformities due to the 20 million gallons of Agent Orange chemical sprayed by the United States.
The Vietnamese call the disfigured youngsters 'the children of Agent Orange'.
Da Nang in central Vietnam is thought to have the highest level of congenital deformity in the world.
The Vietnam War ended nearly 40 years ago, but the casualties continue as birth defects plague the country.
There are claims that thousands of children continue to be born with horrific facial deformities due to the 20 million gallons of Agent Orange chemical sprayed by the United States.
The Vietnamese call the disfigured youngsters 'the children of Agent Orange'.
Da Nang in central Vietnam is thought to have the highest level of congenital deformity in the world.