Here it comes: Syria
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Yes - what's with this all singing, all dancing `feared' S-400 that can hold everything out to Cyprus, down to Israel and up to Turkey at threat?
There are reportedly at least two in the area.
Russians supposedly not given a heads up; so did they or the Syrians choose not to use it?
There are reportedly at least two in the area.
Russians supposedly not given a heads up; so did they or the Syrians choose not to use it?
Join Date: Jun 2001
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From the MOD statement:
We appreciate the UK's enormous level of support in our military actions. 
The UK element of the carefully coordinated joint action was contributed by four Royal Air Force Tornado GR4s.
Join Date: May 2001
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A face saving strike where the combatants signalled their intentions well in advance. The S400 did not fire at the GR4s and a handful of missiles hit a few sites around Damascus.
In next weeks news a dozen innocent people die in London as an IS radical plows van into crowd...says its revenge for Syria.
In next weeks news a dozen innocent people die in London as an IS radical plows van into crowd...says its revenge for Syria.
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Below the line, what valuable target can be hit if strikes are announced days ahead? You could even see the Russian navy moving out ships out of their base for days and their air defence looks like having remained silent. So everything was agreed before? Even Israel seems to pre-coordinate things with Russia these days.
So is this more than a show? Not exactly some credible chemical weapons deterrence it seems. Two days of evening headlines news and this was it.
So is this more than a show? Not exactly some credible chemical weapons deterrence it seems. Two days of evening headlines news and this was it.
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Originally Posted by Bigpants
In next weeks news a dozen innocent people die in London as an IS radical plows van into crowd...says its revenge for Syria
So is this more than a show? ... Two days of evening headlines news and this was it
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Location: Moscow region
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Originally Posted by tartare
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Russians supposedly not given a heads up;
Russians supposedly not given a heads up;
It was announced earlier that the Russians would only respond if the US & Co shoot at them. Nobody did, even no threat in the areas where two Russian bases are located. Thus, why to respond?
Lots of data concerning the western attack have been collected and are/will be analyzed, good.
Originally Posted by tartare
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...or the Syrians choose not to use it?
...or the Syrians choose not to use it?
I wonder what exactly the intercept ratio was (per type of missile and per type of AD complex). First announcements differ greatly and seem not trustworthy. Western leaders are just saying that the goals have been achieved, which sounds vague. Conversely, the Russian MoD gives too detailed numbers, which I doubt a lot (i.e. 71 missile intercepted of 100+ and also split is provided per attacked facility/airbase):
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/[email protected]
It's in Russian but autotranslation should work...
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
From the MOD statement:
We appreciate the UK's enormous level of support in our military actions.
We appreciate the UK's enormous level of support in our military actions.
As a very-ex-Superpower we have to deal with reality, not fantasy.
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Originally Posted by Strumble Head
Well, probably that's most of the functioning a/c that we have available when matched against all the (competing) current threats and requirements?
As a very-ex-Superpower we have to deal with reality, not fantasy.
As a very-ex-Superpower we have to deal with reality, not fantasy.
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“Enormous level of support..?” Come on, we know US isn’t short of airframes and could easily have deployed another four -or forty of your own. But that’s hardly the point. In terms of mandate, a coordinated strike by three of five perm Security Council members plays enormously better that a solo act.
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Originally Posted by air pig
Now who said it was a good idea to retire the Tornado fleet?
Yes I know that Typhoon is scheduled to take over Tornado roles at the end of this year. But that will leave the RAF totally reliant on Typhoon alone and without the same recce capabilities.
This must be the stupidest decision and one I am sure we will regret...
