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Old 4th May 2013, 09:38
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Will those officers who insist on wearing kilts to Christmas Draws etc be charged with wearing a foreign uniform after Independence?
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Of course , this will all be irrelevant if Scotland votes for independence!
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Depending on whether the newly independent Scotland stays in the Commonwealth or not, there will of course be a job for an Air Attache or Air Advisor, and some staff.
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Will those officers who insist on wearing kilts to Christmas Draws etc be charged with wearing a foreign uniform after Independence?
Tartan (so I am told) was invented in England so I'd guess it would still be ok to continue that theme at mess functions. Although they'd probably wear pants under it! Who knows, the English airforce may even adopt their own new tartan. It should be encouraged, your women love it!


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NUTloose 1 mile north of the wall is still firmly in England, and the "reivers" who many seen to glamorise romantically were nothing more than cross border thieves and rapists. Funny how that's seen as acceptable if its just one way in favour of the Celts!

I wonder why Mel Gibson never played that one....

Regards from one mile south if the wall.
Cool, it is odd no film has been made about the Reivers..

But we may all be in trouble, the Scots invaded England back in 1754, so may well claim the country all the way down to Derby in a similar vein to Argentinas claim on the Falklands, now I have no problems with them having Derby, but that would again put me close to the Border again


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now I have no problems with them having Derby, but that would again put me close to the Border again
Thats a great idea. If the borders going to be that far south then we get York again too. Maybe we can change that law that says it's still legal to hang a Scotsman in that city. Always wanted to visit but until they change that I'm going nowhere near the place!


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Old 4th May 2013, 15:00
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
...the Scots invaded England back in 1754, so may well claim the country all the way down to Derby in a similar vein to Argentinas claim on the Falklands, now I have no problems with them having Derby, but that would again put me close to the Border again
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The Jacobite uprising? In 1745? Sorry to disappoint, but that wasn't really the Scots, though there were some among them. Basically some Italian bloke (arguably) wanting to take the crown of England (and those of Scotland and Ireland) for his old man, and starting his misadventure in Scotland as a stepping stone to the real prize.

Though if they had pressed towards a largely undefended London instead of turning back at Derby, George II would probably have fled, leaving Bonnie Prince Charlie's father as James VIII of Scotland and III of England.

Some say that if this had happened the English and French would have avoided a further 70 years of conflict; the English would not have had to raise taxes in the colonies to pay for the French wars; the Americans would not have had cause to fight a war for their independence; and the French revolution might not have happened. The world would be a very different place...
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Maybe we can change that law that says it's still legal to hang a Scotsman in that city.
Hadn't heard of that one. Though I believe it is quite legal to shoot Welshmen in the City of Hereford.

With the proviso that you do it with a bow & arrow and after curfew.
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Thats a great idea. If the borders going to be that far south then we get York again too
You've already got Doncaster (and some would say that you're welcome to it )

Yahoo! News UK & Ireland - Latest World News & UK News Headlines
Jeremy Clarkson may have to don a kilt on Top Gear from now on after it was revealed the Yorkshire town of Doncaster historically belongs to Scotland

Ancient documents have revealed the birthplace of Clarkson was signed over to Scotland in a treaty 900 years ago as part of the Treaty of Durham after King David successfully stormed large areas of northern England.
It remained in Scottish hands for 21 years until Henry II appeared to reclaim the town under English rule in 1157.

But experts have now found an official pact wasn't ever signed - meaning strictly speaking the South Yorkshire town still belongs to the Scots.
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Aaaaaarghhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!

That means that when I was serving at Finningley and Bawtry I was living in Scotland?

Unbearable thought.

Tell me it isn't true, mother.
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I think that Bawtry and Finningley are well outside the medieval borough boundaries so you might just be safe.

However, having been born and brung up there it probably means that I am allowed to go out in public cross-dressing with a knife down me sock.
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Unfortunately we LIVED in BESSACARR [ok, the posh bit, but nevertheless ........]
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Well....get the frock on laddie! And welcome to the club.
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Originally Posted by Biggus
When Leuchars finally closes and the aircraft have all moved north, will we have the ridiculous situation where the Stn Cdr at Lossiemouth post is changed to an Air Commodore slot on the basis that he is also Air Officer Scotland? (I notice it's no longer Air Officer Scotland and Northern Ireland...)

Do we have an Air Officer Wales? (Job for Stn Cdr at Valley?)

Or are we soon to be in a situation where we have so few flying bases left we decide to "up rank" all Stn Cdr posts at such places to Air Commodore rank? (It would make a good post in the "...you know you've become a Third World airforce when...." thread).

Of course , this will all be irrelevant if Scotland votes for independence!

Would have thought the title would simply cease to be used!
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We do have a Flt Lt Wales, do we not?
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Sorry but you don't loose the boring old fart that easily - 1 st statute on Scottish Lawbooks post independence would be to legalise extraordinary rendition. We would send him back down south in the boot of Reliant Robin (if it even has a boot!).
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Originally Posted by ian16th
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Maybe we can change that law that says it's still legal to hang a Scotsman in that city.

Hadn't heard of that one. Though I believe it is quite legal to shoot Welshmen in the City of Hereford.

With the proviso that you do it with a bow & arrow and after curfew.
Ian, I'm just hoping nobody decides to test either of these laws!! Mind you both are pretty tame when you consider that the Scots used to strip captured English naked, tie them to the ground and let the midges feast on them!!


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Originally Posted by Whenurhappy
Will those officers who insist on wearing kilts to Christmas Draws etc be charged with wearing a foreign uniform after Independence?
Such hospitable folk , so much for extending a warm a courteous welcome to friends



And wish you well charging our future King and commander in chief

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Originally Posted by langleybaston
Aaaaaarghhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!

That means that when I was serving at Finningley and Bawtry I was living in Scotland?

Unbearable thought.

Tell me it isn't true, mother.
lankeybaston , you would have known if you had; living in Scotland is a bit like the Betty Ford Clinic – it’s rehab for the disgruntled spirit. You would have left a good bit lighter having lost those chips and you’d be fuller of the milk of human kindness. Don’t worry though, we’d let you back in, with a reference of course!
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I hadn't really appreciated that there are a few specific RAF Tartans ...



RAF Modern



RAF Lossiemouth Modern



RAF Leuchars Modern

Does RAF Kinloss have a Tarten ?

You learn something new every day

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Does RAF Kinloss have a Tarten ?
I think that should be did RAF Kinloss have a Tarten - it is Kinloss Barracks now

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