Bristows to take over SAR from 2015
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Al-bert,
Well you have now. Is it safe to say 'Wessex' without causing a collective, whimsical 'Ah, Wessex.....Queen of the Skies'?
Well you have now. Is it safe to say 'Wessex' without causing a collective, whimsical 'Ah, Wessex.....Queen of the Skies'?
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I have only had a quick flick through the thread, but didn't see any mention of the fact that Bristow was providing S&R at Sumburgh about 1983. I flew my Stampe to LSI to an airshow, and spoke directly to the S&R skipper that would be on duty when I flew up.
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Now the dust has settled can anyone answer the vital question...
What will the colour scheme be?
Black and orange?
PICTURE: Soteria reveals S-92 livery for SAR-H
I don't believe black and orange works well except for visibility to other aircraft for collision avoidance, and only when above the horizon for the 1/4 sec of potential manoeuvre if actually on a collision heading.
White and red is internationally recognised but white is poor against snow, clouds, water reflection and red isn't as noticeable as some would think.
Matt grey and red, no glint to catch the eye in some conditions and obviously a poor compromise from having to use a mil scheme.
Personally I like the all yellow, easy to see over all terrain
The old SAR-H thread may be of use to some and would save most of the silly inter service, mil/civil trash talking. But at 87 pages I couldn't face a detailed read
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/405...ed-bidder.html
Anyone know what happened to the chap who went to Soteria and seemed to be the scapegoat for SAR-H?
What will the colour scheme be?
Black and orange?
PICTURE: Soteria reveals S-92 livery for SAR-H
I don't believe black and orange works well except for visibility to other aircraft for collision avoidance, and only when above the horizon for the 1/4 sec of potential manoeuvre if actually on a collision heading.
White and red is internationally recognised but white is poor against snow, clouds, water reflection and red isn't as noticeable as some would think.
Matt grey and red, no glint to catch the eye in some conditions and obviously a poor compromise from having to use a mil scheme.
Personally I like the all yellow, easy to see over all terrain
The old SAR-H thread may be of use to some and would save most of the silly inter service, mil/civil trash talking. But at 87 pages I couldn't face a detailed read
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/405...ed-bidder.html
Anyone know what happened to the chap who went to Soteria and seemed to be the scapegoat for SAR-H?
Just a thought but... a civil company with foreign friends (and perhaps without the inhibitions of "foreign" competition) might use other civil companies to enhance their coverage of the East Coast and its associated waters?
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Whilst I share the view that it's sad to see any decline in military activity, let's face the fact that commercially-operated SAR is not new, as several others have pointed out in this thread. If you look at it simply in terms of the number of bases, civil helicopters currently provide one third of UK SAR cover and have done for many years, whilst the RAF provides half. If civil operators were incapable of providing an effective service I think we'd have heard about it by now.
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Gwyn, Same pic appears in this month RAeS Mag. This S92 looks up to the job. even equipped with NVGs to supplement the Wescam sensor.
I must admit I always thought till now that Bristow was British.
Do I understand the fleet is going to be a mix of AW*** and S92?
Since those in power take so much note of PPRuNe shall we organise a Poll on the colour or just put it out to sponsorship. I vote for yellow. with one odd rotor blade!
I must admit I always thought till now that Bristow was British.
Do I understand the fleet is going to be a mix of AW*** and S92?
Since those in power take so much note of PPRuNe shall we organise a Poll on the colour or just put it out to sponsorship. I vote for yellow. with one odd rotor blade!
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Originally Posted by Ivan Rogov
I don't believe black and orange works well except for visibility to other aircraft for collision avoidance, and only when above the horizon for the 1/4 sec of potential manoeuvre if actually on a collision heading.
White and red is internationally recognised but white is poor against snow, clouds, water reflection and red isn't as noticeable as some would think.
Matt grey and red, no glint to catch the eye in some conditions and obviously a poor compromise from having to use a mil scheme.
Personally I like the all yellow, easy to see over all terrain
White and red is internationally recognised but white is poor against snow, clouds, water reflection and red isn't as noticeable as some would think.
Matt grey and red, no glint to catch the eye in some conditions and obviously a poor compromise from having to use a mil scheme.
Personally I like the all yellow, easy to see over all terrain
That is well-visible in virtually all lighting and background conditions, and is already associated with SAR (exposure suits).
Safety orange - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Greenknight - orange/dayglo is very easy to see land to land or air to land but air to air and in most weather and lighting conditions I believe black is the best option - it gives a nice clear silhouette and contrasts well with most cloud/sky/terrain.
Al-bert - nice job
it seems that all that is required is 15 mins grappling (drums) a month to be as good as RN SAR (secondary duty) crews
Al-bert - nice job
it seems that all that is required is 15 mins grappling (drums) a month to be as good as RN SAR (secondary duty) crews
I suppose Coastguard livery will remain as Coastguard livery but Mil SAR colours are likely to disappear for a contractors appearance.
At the other end of the contract, I wonder if those of us still on Pprune then will be wailing about losing whatever those future colours are?
At the other end of the contract, I wonder if those of us still on Pprune then will be wailing about losing whatever those future colours are?
Al-bert - nice job
it seems that all that is required is 15 mins grappling (drums) a month to be as good as RN SAR (secondary duty) crews
it seems that all that is required is 15 mins grappling (drums) a month to be as good as RN SAR (secondary duty) crews
but I dare say you're too young to remember that!
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As for colour, I'm guessing no one is going to come up with some feeble, concocted rubbish about 'hi vis' or some other Health & Safety hoop, so I think black & gold might look pretty good. This also looks like the right standard for the crew too!
Hmm just had a thought could have a 21st century Airwolf then To the Rescue lol,. guaranteed not to keep anyone drifting in the perilous waters for more than 15 seconds as opposed to 15 minutes followed by Davy Joneses Locker 
Can't remember off hand but apart from the US EMS which used the 222, 230 and 430 for that purpose wasn't there an operator somewhere in warmer climes that sued a 222 for SAR??? I know there was a NZ operator had a yellow and red 222 for EMS but dont think it was used for hoisting offshore?
I know the aircraft captain in the photo above
She's a friend of mine but doubt she'd be tempted from the warmer climes of LA to the challenging North Sea or Channel lol
Cheers
Can't remember off hand but apart from the US EMS which used the 222, 230 and 430 for that purpose wasn't there an operator somewhere in warmer climes that sued a 222 for SAR??? I know there was a NZ operator had a yellow and red 222 for EMS but dont think it was used for hoisting offshore?
I know the aircraft captain in the photo above
She's a friend of mine but doubt she'd be tempted from the warmer climes of LA to the challenging North Sea or Channel lol Cheers
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bristows takeover dates
anybody no the dates of the change over, i no they say 2015, but understand chivenor could be one of the first to go as they ops with the mk 3a and they could be sold after some work, prob end up in south america or far east, and what about the sea king sar flt raf in the falklands is that going bristows to, also whats going on in cyprus with 84 sqn down to two griffins, is that going civil to.