Airbus A400M as a maritime aircraft ?
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I think Juliet has answered that one.
The P8 ....
It is too small.
It has two engines.
It does not, as far as I am aware. Have a bomb bay.
Lockheed make better aircraft than Ford(Boeing).
The P8 ....
It is too small.
It has two engines.
It does not, as far as I am aware. Have a bomb bay.
Lockheed make better aircraft than Ford(Boeing).
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That is not a bomb bay. That is a delivery shoot.
Anyway, Made in USA. Will not go down well in Europe.
I thought the USAF ordered A33o tankers ?
Whoops, here comes Congress !
Anyway, Made in USA. Will not go down well in Europe.
I thought the USAF ordered A33o tankers ?
Whoops, here comes Congress !
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The integral bomb bay can carry free-fall bombs, Raytheon Mark 54 torpedoes and depth charges. Air-to-surface missiles are installed on the underwing hardpoints.
The US Navy armed the P-8A with a development of the MK 54 torpedo that can be fired from high-altitude. The first MK 54 torpedo was successfully test fired by the P-8A Poseidon in October 2011.
The US Navy armed the P-8A with a development of the MK 54 torpedo that can be fired from high-altitude. The first MK 54 torpedo was successfully test fired by the P-8A Poseidon in October 2011.
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If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck. It is a duck, or a Boeing 737.
An airliner.
The A400M is a beast. You can't lease them to Soutwest Airlines, well not yet anyway.
An airliner.
The A400M is a beast. You can't lease them to Soutwest Airlines, well not yet anyway.
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Dream on, no flying battleships for the UK. Don't think 1985.
Even something like this is ambitious at this moment..
Even something like this is ambitious at this moment..
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As long as they have four engines and they are called Nimrod.
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Airbus have already designed it...
"The A400M aircraft will meet the requirements of European Air Forces well into the 21st century while enhancing Europe's airlift capability. It will be able to takeoff from short (less than 1,000 meters) and rough runways and to operate autonomously loading and unloading payloads through its own resources independently of ground support. The aircraft has a rear loading ramp and T tail.
Airbus Military manages the A400M program. There are plans to developed advanced derivatives to fulfill specific missions profiles such as maritime patrol aircraft, early warning aircraft etc. The A400M will be converted to the air tanker role rapidly through the addition of under wing hose and drogue pods. The aircraft also features a forward fuselage mounted refueling probe."
What is needed, and the P8 does not appear to have, is a MAD boom. Or are they out of date ?
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"The A400M aircraft will meet the requirements of European Air Forces well into the 21st century while enhancing Europe's airlift capability. It will be able to takeoff from short (less than 1,000 meters) and rough runways and to operate autonomously loading and unloading payloads through its own resources independently of ground support. The aircraft has a rear loading ramp and T tail.
Airbus Military manages the A400M program. There are plans to developed advanced derivatives to fulfill specific missions profiles such as maritime patrol aircraft, early warning aircraft etc. The A400M will be converted to the air tanker role rapidly through the addition of under wing hose and drogue pods. The aircraft also features a forward fuselage mounted refueling probe."
What is needed, and the P8 does not appear to have, is a MAD boom. Or are they out of date ?
Magnetic anomaly detector - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Unfortunately cancelled, but were design studies
And lets not forget
And lets not forget
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The wonderful VC-10. Thirsty by today's standards.
Boeing have been pushing the UK government hard for the P8.
Liam Fox wanted it. I am not sure the service chiefs agreed?
A Europe wide solution will have to be found, eventually. A decision based purely on costs, will be the wrong one.
Beware the Beancounters !
Boeing have been pushing the UK government hard for the P8.
Liam Fox wanted it. I am not sure the service chiefs agreed?
A Europe wide solution will have to be found, eventually. A decision based purely on costs, will be the wrong one.
Beware the Beancounters !
Gents,
how far did the (i think) FOAS idea of a C-130/A-400M type aircraft lobbing a pallet load of ALCM's out the back get along?
i would have seen the illustration/concept around 1990 - was it ever anything of a go-er?
how far did the (i think) FOAS idea of a C-130/A-400M type aircraft lobbing a pallet load of ALCM's out the back get along?
i would have seen the illustration/concept around 1990 - was it ever anything of a go-er?
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Generally I think less people onboard will be required for a future MPA. Computerpower, smart software and data transfer helped. So less space for many crew stations/ facilities required. Then 4 engines were the only options for Nimrod and PC3, 50 yrs ago. Things have changed. Requirements to. Dept charges aren't effective fighting pirats in small fast boats with machine guns.
Me too thinks a European requirement will grow over the years.
Love the VC-Nimrod
Me too thinks a European requirement will grow over the years.
Love the VC-Nimrod