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Old 17th Dec 2012, 11:35
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Ludvig .... ?? I thought his mummy called him David. Merry Christmas to you too LM - and to every one else. LFH
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Merry Cringe Chaps
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 13:33
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Wossa all the jagged edges mate?
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 13:37
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Take yer specs orf - I'm not that proficient!
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 13:44
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PM me an aeroplane pic and background that you want and I'll do a card from you as well.

(professionally this time )
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 14:19
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IIRC a couple to GR1s from Laarbruch actually got that view of the castle when they lost track of where the border was sometime around 1990.... and no it wasn't me!
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Picking up newt's "challenge" ...

What about "Who was the best Lightning pilot?" or " What's the fastest you have ever been in a Lightning?"
I can't comment on the "best" or "fastest" but I knew Pete Stone a long time ago ... where legend has it that he, in the late 70's early 80's, took a T Bird Lightning super sonic, at below mast height, past a Rusian Trawler "Earwigging" down in the Med ... which, after the event, he regarded as a legitimate enemy intercept. Must have been interesting for the Trawler crew !

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Old 18th Dec 2012, 13:46
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All I can add to that is this:

The IAS limit for the Lightning was 650 kts.

At sea level ISA conditions the speed of sound is 661 kts.
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 14:09
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Interesting word that "limit" ... well even at 98% SoS it would have caused a stir on deck I'm sure
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 14:13
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Yes.

You only need 0.97 to 0.98 with 6g to throw quite a nice bang.

Lots of us have done it.

On the receiving end it looks like this:


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Old 18th Dec 2012, 14:47
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Thanks LM ... awesome bit of kit twas the Lightning If only I'd been more capable

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Old 18th Dec 2012, 15:27
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You degrade yourself.

We were just a bunch of ordinary guys doing a professional job.

We were not called "Fast Jet Pilots" in those days - we were "Fighter Pilots".
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 15:33
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Have a Happy Christmas LM ... see you around PPRuNe
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 15:34
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I can't comment on the "best" or "fastest"
Dave Roome might be contender for highest. I believe he got up to 88,000' over Singapore one day.
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 15:38
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No he didn't - another "Lightning Myth".
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Did someone (name forgotten) claim to have got to 85K+ over Saudi ? What is the known "official" height acheived ?
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No he didn't - another "Lightning Myth".
Really? He did put it in print. (Not disputing what you are saying, just seems odd that he wrote about it.)

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Old 18th Dec 2012, 16:38
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Did someone (name forgotten) claim to have got to 85K+ over Saudi ? What is the known "official" height acheived ?
- I believe Brian Carroll claimed that. there is a longish thread buried here somewhere about it.
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 17:21
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LM

Wrote a book on the Lightning a good few years ago and was helped greatly by Brian Carroll. He sent me his account of getting to 87,300ft (indicated) over Saudi in 1979. Also included the account of Dave Roome who claimed to have got to 87,800ft near Tengah in 1968. Are you saying the latter claim is incorrect?

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Old 18th Dec 2012, 18:53
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How do i add an image?

If some one can tell me how to add an image from my desk top etc - ill add to the Ltg Xmas piccies!
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