Camp Bastion attack
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From: Darling - where are we?
Hmmm, I think the elephant in the room is that the combined force of many nations equipped with massively expensive weaponry and tools, are still not enough to decisively defeat 200 guys in flipflops in an area the size of Kent.
This incident, unfortunately for us, serves as a stark reminder that despite being the 'guys in flip flops' they are still very capable fighters; we would do well not to underestimate them or their capabilties.
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From: Darling - where are we?
One small difference....the SAS guys did not wear suicide vests and had every ambition of having a Pint or two after the raid.
As for 70 virgins - really? They must be onto 'sloppy seconds' by now?
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From: London, New York, Paris, Moscow.
flip flops really?
Six of the jump-jets were destroyed, and two were seriously damaged in the attack, in which insurgents disguised in U.S. Army uniforms managed to breach the perimeter of the heavily fortified base.
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From: Cloud9
This attack was straight out of the David Stirling textbook, and a very expensive (blood & treasure) object lesson in underestimating your enemy.
Melchett01 is quite right; this attack stands up well alongside the Pebble Island job, with the added dimension of a suicide aspect.
I long for the day when the last NATO troops depart this ungovernable, medieval cess-pit, which will then gracefully subside back to its' normal modus operandi. Declare victory & go home.
HB
Melchett01 is quite right; this attack stands up well alongside the Pebble Island job, with the added dimension of a suicide aspect.
I long for the day when the last NATO troops depart this ungovernable, medieval cess-pit, which will then gracefully subside back to its' normal modus operandi. Declare victory & go home.
HB
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This attack was straight out of the David Stirling textbook, and a very expensive (blood & treasure) object lesson in underestimating your enemy.
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Seems that whole NATO Afghan strategy is now is disarray anyway, with the announcement of the end of joint patrols?! Talk about a Taliban victory. We should just pack up and leave before any more lives are wasted unnecessarily.
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From: Detroit MI
I can never understand the ignorance and stupidity of our "leaders"...
It has been demonstrated several times throughout history that the longer someone stays in Afghanistan the more likely they are to leave unceremoniously.
Good work Rocks... Per Ardua!!!
It has been demonstrated several times throughout history that the longer someone stays in Afghanistan the more likely they are to leave unceremoniously.
Good work Rocks... Per Ardua!!!
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
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Grim, indeed an expeditious victory parade at home is called for. The snag would be getting out with your a*** intact.
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From: Somewhere
Taliban uses Google Earth
http://cryptome.org/2012-info/camp-b...mp-bastion.htm
Nicely followed with a whole series of photos from inside the wire and indeed showing the camp layout, accommodation, flight lines and perimeter. Irony?? 
“My sources in the Taliban tell me that every time they want to attack an important target they use Google Maps and other available means for studying and understanding their targets.”
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From: by the Great Salt Lake, USA
Not to mention photos posted on the facebook & twitter pages of military personnel and civilians posted to the outposts!
And people wonder why I hate much of modern social media!
And people wonder why I hate much of modern social media!
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From: Downeast
We are making great progress towards the publically announced departure date aren't we?
The stated goal was to handover the security of the country to the Central Government....now we cannot do joint patrols due to the risk of Green on Blue attacks.
We just had a very successful attack on our Bastion base.
The protests and attacks on our Embassies are wide spread and frequent.
What am I missing here....the President goes golfing, misses half of his Daily Intelligence Briefings....just what the hell is happening to our grand strategy?
It seems to be in shambles or is it just me?
The stated goal was to handover the security of the country to the Central Government....now we cannot do joint patrols due to the risk of Green on Blue attacks.
We just had a very successful attack on our Bastion base.
The protests and attacks on our Embassies are wide spread and frequent.
What am I missing here....the President goes golfing, misses half of his Daily Intelligence Briefings....just what the hell is happening to our grand strategy?
It seems to be in shambles or is it just me?