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In, Out, In, Out, Shake It All About - MTP PCS

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Old 18th Jul 2013, 10:05
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IIRC, some time ago it was found that personnel wearing stable belts and involved in an RTA received injuries from the stable belt buckle being forced into the abdominal area by interaction with the seat belt.
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Old 18th Jul 2013, 12:39
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Originally Posted by Willard Whyte
'twould all be solved by wearing
Some of us do. Been my uniform for 30 years now.

Haven't ordered the new fancy dress outfit.

Yet.
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Old 18th Jul 2013, 13:23
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I thought this thread was going to be about the Hokey Cokey.

When the man, who wrote the song, died, his family was devastated, but it got worse. Getting ready for the funeral, they tried to put him into the coffin. First they put his left leg in - and that's when all the trouble started.

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Old 18th Jul 2013, 18:18
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Weird, the internet version of the AP has also gone back to AL14:

http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafi...4494292B03.pdf

With Joint operations, basing and even squadrons we do look a right state with some tucked in and others not.
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Old 18th Jul 2013, 19:00
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Personal Clothing System. WTF?

Presumably there must be a 'Shared/Collective/Impersonal Clothing System' too then?

It's like when smart arsed double glazing salesmen started calling it a 'Glazing System', or 'Fenestration System'.

Anybody get a star for that piece of work?

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Old 18th Jul 2013, 19:24
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Just come across this thread,

When I were a lad the rules were simple. Winter dress and summer dress. I was fortunate enough to serve in the enlightened times when a "collar attached shirt" no tie and rolled up sleeves was accepted as "acceptable". Why is the service taking about ten backward steps in dress regs ? Modern blokes must be very confused about what is or is not de rigueur. My sympathies chaps, my boss on Oxford UAS was more than happy with shorts and T shirts in very hot weather.

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Old 19th Jul 2013, 05:58
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The whole PCS system has been a bit of a debacle - it promised a fair bit initially.



In the opinion of this airman, they'd have been better off doing the following:
  1. Buy the actual Crye Multicam pattern. Dont ask the Crye Precision/Multicam Company to develop your own, slightly different pattern at great cost to the taxpayer. Multicam is proven, and it is readily available for any new UOR bits of kit you need - 95% of tactical nylon manufacturers produce a myriad of gear in MC - everything from softshells to sleeping bags.

    If you need it in MC, likelyhood a perfectly good solution already exists. Granted, its not "British", but it saves you have to get every bit of kit/clothing made in your "Speshul MTP" pattern (again at greater expense).
    MTP is individualism for individualisms sake and nothing else; it is no better or worse than MC, and just creates one more ballache for anyone trying to acquire gear, be it issued or purchase

  2. Keep the S95 cut jacket in MC/MTP for use around the station - it works tucked in, so it looks all neat and tidy. The current PCS cut belows out around the ribs when tucked in, and to be honest, looks bloody ridiculous.

    For Ops, issue PCS cut jackets/UBACS. (The PCS smocks and trousers are, in all credit to the DE&S guys, f**king brilliant. Cant fault them at all, so issue them for both use around camp/on ops).
Whilst I appreciate its nice to have a pattern that defines us as "British", the average journo wouldnt be able to spot the difference between MC and MTP - so the chances of misidentifying British troops as US/Australian etc etc is very low.
Besides, if you are looking that closely at their uniform, the rifles carried should be a dead giveaway. (And if they are Brits using US rifles, likelyhood is you shouldnt be taking pictures of them anyway )

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Old 19th Jul 2013, 07:48
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As someone who doesn't have any PCS, and never will, I have read this thread with a mixture of amusement and incredulity. I'm retiring soon, at which point I'll hand back my loft insulation, sorry kit, including CS95 and various sandy coloured items I was issued for GW2.

I wonder what will become of it? Army surplus, part of a job lot sold to some third world country?
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Old 19th Jul 2013, 09:14
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From my experience (last year) - it is thrown in a large black dustbin to be offloaded for 'cloth recycling' according the storeman. You'd have thought someone would have saved it all up to be exported to libya/syria for 'non-lethal assistance' to get Hague and co a few brownie points!
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