Noise compaints -Hercules.
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"Most people in this Country would be pleased to have a Hercules fly around them."
How on earth do you work that out? Apart from a bunch of spotters and retirees I suspect most people would rather not have the noise at all.
"Most people in this Country would be pleased to have a Hercules fly around them."
How on earth do you work that out? Apart from a bunch of spotters and retirees I suspect most people would rather not have the noise at all.
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Ah yes airbases
dont have any round here now, been so noisy since the army took over Cottesmore all those low flying squadies
Last time a FJ came past the other month i nearly broke my leg trying to get outside to see it and still missed it
I should imagine hercs producing a low frequency tend to be heard more through the buildings than FJs although Tonkas on reheat at 23-00 hrs were noisy
still miss them all though
dont have any round here now, been so noisy since the army took over Cottesmore all those low flying squadies
Last time a FJ came past the other month i nearly broke my leg trying to get outside to see it and still missed it
I should imagine hercs producing a low frequency tend to be heard more through the buildings than FJs although Tonkas on reheat at 23-00 hrs were noisy
still miss them all though
Tell the idiots to sue their solicitor, for an inadequate search on purchasing the property, you can't build a damm great f*****g airfield overnight. It's been there far longer than they have, pity it wasn't in the distant past with a wing of SAC B47s, then they'd have really known what noise was !!
Some fool tried the same thing on at Wittering complaining about Harrier noise, on he farmer in Wales who put **** off Biggles on the roof of his barn, why was that house so cheap again, muppets.
Some fool tried the same thing on at Wittering complaining about Harrier noise, on he farmer in Wales who put **** off Biggles on the roof of his barn, why was that house so cheap again, muppets.
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BBC NEWS | UK | England | Derbyshire | Airport's noise complaints soar
The main complainer used to work there lol.
The main complainer used to work there lol.
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"Most people in this Country would be pleased to have a Hercules fly around them."
How on earth do you work that out? Apart from a bunch of spotters and retirees I suspect most people would rather not have the noise at all.
When the first probed RAF Hercules were flying around the UK, the positive letters received at Lyneham said it all. Thats how I worked it out. That was in 1982. Now, we live in society which takes to whigeing very readily and the noise complaints are just one example.
"Most people in this Country would be pleased to have a Hercules fly around them."
How on earth do you work that out? Apart from a bunch of spotters and retirees I suspect most people would rather not have the noise at all.
When the first probed RAF Hercules were flying around the UK, the positive letters received at Lyneham said it all. Thats how I worked it out. That was in 1982. Now, we live in society which takes to whigeing very readily and the noise complaints are just one example.
The better you make life for people in a democracy, the more they want- expect, actually. Look at Madge- she buys a house next to a GA field, immediately wants it shut. My school is one of 2 in a run of buildings on the same street. 400 kids arrive and depart over 30 mins in the morning and about 15 in the pm. I'
Ve been there for 19 years- only 2 families have been there that long, they don't whinge. The others, bugger me, they go on!
The answer is for the government to legislate to say that ANY noise, nuisance, environmental bitches that an occupant makes, be lodged with the local authority for search purposes for 25 years. RAF simply asks at the initial contact, "May I just take your name and exact address for local government search updating, please?"
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Ve been there for 19 years- only 2 families have been there that long, they don't whinge. The others, bugger me, they go on!
The answer is for the government to legislate to say that ANY noise, nuisance, environmental bitches that an occupant makes, be lodged with the local authority for search purposes for 25 years. RAF simply asks at the initial contact, "May I just take your name and exact address for local government search updating, please?"
CG
A very good friend of mine was a pad brat in Germany, she told me lessons stopped every 45 mins to allow aircraft to land and take of at Laarbruch, loved it.
nope just outside on the approach!
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Slight thread drift but allied. Chinook night flying sortie on SPTA, West Everleigh Down to be precise. 'T' on northerly heading. I decided to give the crews a break from LH circuits (and the residents of Upavon MQ's from their telly progs being drowned out). I thinlk we lasted 10 mins before a noise complaint came in from a retired Major in Everleigh village and Odiham Ops requesting I revert to original circuit pattern. Typical NIMBYism!!!!!!!!!!!
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First Chinook arrived Odious, our Aussie colleague was on the ops desk when some farmer calls to complain the new helicopter is disturbing his livestock, "well they better get used to it mate, because it's going to be here for the next 30 odd years and there are more on the way"... End of conversation.
JATFOR
The locals of Brize are lucky. Back in the 70s one of Lyneham's roles was JATFOR - the Joint Airborne Task Force - in which a the complete force was dropped in a single pass of (IIRC) 17 paratroop ac followed by 18 dropping stores and vehicles in a 3000 yard stream.
In those days we also did engine checks before take off so 35 Hercs at once had to find room to run up to medium power. The airfield generally went black with the smoke and the citizens of New Zealand village got to repair their outhouses, sheds and fences for free.
However, for exercise safety, the stream was always preceded by a weather ac running 15 minutes ahead. During one such exercise over SW England Gp Capt Freddie Yetman, then station commander, was in Station Ops when the phone rang. All the staff were otherwise busy so Freddie answered it. It was the inevitable complaint "One of your aeroplanes just flew low overf my house". "Where are you?". Location explained, to which Freddie replied, very politely, "Well if you like to wait for another 10 minutes or so there are another 35 following it" and put the phone down.
In those days we also did engine checks before take off so 35 Hercs at once had to find room to run up to medium power. The airfield generally went black with the smoke and the citizens of New Zealand village got to repair their outhouses, sheds and fences for free.
However, for exercise safety, the stream was always preceded by a weather ac running 15 minutes ahead. During one such exercise over SW England Gp Capt Freddie Yetman, then station commander, was in Station Ops when the phone rang. All the staff were otherwise busy so Freddie answered it. It was the inevitable complaint "One of your aeroplanes just flew low overf my house". "Where are you?". Location explained, to which Freddie replied, very politely, "Well if you like to wait for another 10 minutes or so there are another 35 following it" and put the phone down.
True, but unfortunately there are many who are opposed to Britain's involvement in military action outside the UK
And the sooner the better.
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"Back in the 70s one of Lyneham's roles was JATFOR - the Joint Airborne Task Force - in which a the complete force was dropped in a single pass of (IIRC) 17 paratroop ac followed by 18 dropping stores and vehicles in a 3000 yard stream. "
ye Gods - were they planning to do another Arnhem??????
ye Gods - were they planning to do another Arnhem??????
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During the late 90's / early 2000's "des res. must have !" postcode frenzy some of the population of Hale Barns and Ashley / Mobberley demanded, no less, a stop to the nasty freight trains using the Manchester-Chester railway line carrying limestone to Northwich...at night.
The railway was built in.... 1863 / 64
Amazing what you discover in your local area that isn't blatantly obvious before you move there.
The railway was built in.... 1863 / 64
Amazing what you discover in your local area that isn't blatantly obvious before you move there.
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Yes,something like that!
After the withdrawal east of Suez in '71 the RAF was awash with transport aircraft and it was decided the Army had first call on the Hercules fleet.
One of the reasons why I and lots of mates decided to take our 8 year options 72-74!
After the withdrawal east of Suez in '71 the RAF was awash with transport aircraft and it was decided the Army had first call on the Hercules fleet.
One of the reasons why I and lots of mates decided to take our 8 year options 72-74!