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Old 26th Oct 2012, 16:18
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Guidelines are advisory and have no standing in a legal system. Changing them won't stop them being ignored.
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Thanks beagle. Is that data openly available?
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Watton Airfield

Slight thread creep but the major downer in disposing of Watton is that nobody considered the VGS on site, currently several hundred cadets in East Anglia have no where to glide from (other VGS full up it appears) until a new home is found and the move paid for.

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One really couldn't give a ****. 10 years on Hercules means I don't have to buy an expensive stereo . . .

Just think what all those NIMBYs could save.

I'm not 12, my wife reckons it's closer to 5 - works for me
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Intro of the Tornado at Bruggen. Quote staish to worried populace "Of course the new Tornado is quieter than the Jaguar"....
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Well done Shack, you connected the name with perhaps being overweight and spotted the age too. New monocle? You followed up with more of your usual boring old drivel. Shack's blah blah blah, Malta blah blah blah, hypothermia blah blah blah.

Absolutely fascinating.

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Well done Shack, you connected the name with perhaps being overweight and spotted the age too. New monocle? You followed up with more of your usual boring old drivel. Shack's blah blah blah, Malta blah blah blah, hypothermia blah blah blah.
Absolutely fascinating.
And an absolutely sparkling reply as usual,reflecting your quoted age and IQ.
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Old 26th Oct 2012, 22:28
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Absolutely fascinating.
Small things amuse small minds. Here's something to occupy yours, probably for quite a long time. There are more advanced tomes available for when you grow up.

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Old 26th Oct 2012, 22:41
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Flap62,
Suppose it's living adjacent to a railway line; you can't really complain about the noise of trains, can you?
I live in a usually quiet house (when the kids and their offspring aren't visiting) with just a little aviation noise when LHR is landing easterly.
From time to time I sleep in houses next to main roads and I notice the increased noise; the permanent occupants do not. They have chosen to live there and have become inured to the noise so why not those who buy a house close to an airfield?
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Is that data openly available?
The A400M has a similar noise level to the Hercules.

See page three of this report from Air Commodore J Ager.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafbrizenorton...B1E9397E22.pdf
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Old 26th Oct 2012, 22:59
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If I lived next to a railway line and the operating company introduced a new piece of rolling stock that made considerably more noise and tested it outside my house in the middle of the night then, yes, I would be annoyed and complain.

It is not the noise from the airfield per se that the residents are complainng about. It is the change in noise caused by poorly thought out integration and a certain level of thoughtlessness by some LYN personel that is causing the problem.
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If I lived next to a railway line and the operating company introduced a new piece of rolling stock that made considerably more noise....
When the bona jets at Wildenrath were due to be replaced by the mighty F4, the local Kraut mayor wrote to his oppo in Holland, suggesting that they should write a combined letter of complaint to the RAF.....

The reply from the Cloggy mate was along the lines of "Yes, we know the Phantom is noisier than the Harrier. But we prefer the sound of either to the sound of the Stuka. Now, f*** off, Fritz!"......


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ooooh, I'm being bullied help. Like being savaged by a limp wet lettuce leaf.

The Shack 37 and DX Wombat double act. Doesn't that conjure up some weird images?

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so why not those who buy a house close to an airfield?
probably because the people who complain, like to complain. We all know the sort.

I lived in St Ives for many years and the noises from Wyton and Alconbury never kept me awake. Yes you could hear USAF Herc noise from Alconbury when the wind was right.

All sorts of complaints when 51 moved to Waddo. The locals had become used to the Sentry - relatively quiet. They had forgotten what had been there previously. Many had bought houses next to a military airbase. It gets noisy.

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Wyton - takes me back. When working there we lived off station and I remember the sound of the Victors emanating from the fireplace in our double-glazed house.
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Hmmmm Elvington has just been hit with it.

Airfield bosses fined over noise (From York Press)

I used to live in one of the none double glazed, none soundproofed blocks at Brize for 5 years and my end room faced onto the runway...... People can't understand how I sleep today through the sound of the neighbours cat farting at 50 yards when they get up in arms about the most unobtrusive of noise.

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Like being savaged by a limp wet lettuce leaf.
Do you really? Still, no accounting for taste at your early stage. Try not to worry, there's still time to develop.
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Hmmmm Elvington has just been hit with it.
Ah well, just sell up and pass the land over to the travelling community, see how the nimbys and their elected representatives cope with that then....
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and a certain level of thoughtlessness by some LYN personel that is causing the problem.
flap62 - what precisely do you mean by that little gem of a comment?
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Early '90s, Saturday night/sunday morning F4 engine cx to be ready for airtest on the Sunday. Clearance for full engine ground runs at any time from the Staish One phone call to ATC so they could turn the lights on the running pan and off we went for some fun Engine started at 00:20 Sunday morning and full afterburner lit at 00:35, engine shut down at 00:45. Don't get many chances to wake everybody up and got about 40-50 complaints into Eng Ops. All wrapped up by 04:00 after a further idle run in the HAS at 02:00. Jet Noise the Sound of Freedom.
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