CAA Military Accreditation
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Great news!
All right. So how do I go from my CPL(H), obtained with the bridging package with ATPL(h) credits, to ATPL(A)?
I cannot find this Appendix 1 to Part-FCL in cap 804 which talks about bridging for one to the other.
Thanks for your help guys.
I cannot find this Appendix 1 to Part-FCL in cap 804 which talks about bridging for one to the other.
Thanks for your help guys.
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Any chance we can work on accreditation for those of us having displayed years of capability well above the skills test? Any idea be little the French, German and other European air forces are having to do to get thier licences? I think a comparison would be very helpful.
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Wokawoka,
The bridging package and exams you took were for ATPL(A) theory as there wasn't a formalized helicopter course before the changeover ( have a look through LASORS for the notes)! Hence having to learn about B737 and Airbus cockpits and Aircon systems. Probably the simplest thing to do would be to get an ATPL(H) and then do the bridging instruction, unless of course you have all of the FW P1 hrs, have had a tour flying FW, e.g. QFI in which case you could save a few punts getting your CPL(A) done. Airways Flight Trg at Exeter are quite spammed-up on getting your license done.
The bridging package and exams you took were for ATPL(A) theory as there wasn't a formalized helicopter course before the changeover ( have a look through LASORS for the notes)! Hence having to learn about B737 and Airbus cockpits and Aircon systems. Probably the simplest thing to do would be to get an ATPL(H) and then do the bridging instruction, unless of course you have all of the FW P1 hrs, have had a tour flying FW, e.g. QFI in which case you could save a few punts getting your CPL(A) done. Airways Flight Trg at Exeter are quite spammed-up on getting your license done.
My thoughts exactly Vin... why do I need to have a CAA TRE fly with me and tell me if I have the skills to fly the type that I have 1000+ hours experience on operating in 4 different continents? Cant we assume that if you have survived multiple operational tours as a CR captain and training captain that you can probably pass a skills test? Unless the civvys cover some other unique flying skills that I don't know about?
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I'm not a pilot so forgive me if I have this wrong, but I understand that when you qualify as a pilot in the UK Military, you don't get a licence just permission to use HM's aircraft? Why don't the UK military just do your training to CAA standard, then add on all the stuff you need for the military side? What do you do on exchange postings? Do you have to do the civvy licences to fly aircraft for, and in, other countries?
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For those of us without thousands of hours, can someone give me a steer?
I've never really tried to delve into the woe of the CAA paperwork, and trying to find it is giving me all kinds of headaches!
For a newly qualified QMP, do I understand that this now makes initial issue of a CPL somewhat less stressful than under the previous system?
I've never really tried to delve into the woe of the CAA paperwork, and trying to find it is giving me all kinds of headaches!
For a newly qualified QMP, do I understand that this now makes initial issue of a CPL somewhat less stressful than under the previous system?
''For those of us without thousands of hours, can someone give me a steer?''
Published yesterday:
SRG 2133: Confirmation of Military Experience for Military Accreditation Scheme (MAS) Credits in Accordance with Article 10 of Commission Regulation (EU) 1178/2011 | Publications | About the CAA
Published yesterday:
SRG 2133: Confirmation of Military Experience for Military Accreditation Scheme (MAS) Credits in Accordance with Article 10 of Commission Regulation (EU) 1178/2011 | Publications | About the CAA
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Dan, SRG 2133 is simply the application from which replaces PLD/FCL-JAR15 and its successors.
floating_rock, you need to read CAP 804 Section 4 part O.
Perhaps those with 'thousands of hours' might have expected that their experience would have been properly recognised as required under part-FCL; regrettably, however, this clearly hasn't happened.
Yet?
floating_rock, you need to read CAP 804 Section 4 part O.
Perhaps those with 'thousands of hours' might have expected that their experience would have been properly recognised as required under part-FCL; regrettably, however, this clearly hasn't happened.
Yet?
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The new MAS seem to be able to be applied in perpetuity, the old "one year from the last flight in a mil aircraft" seems to have gone (or I have missed it)
Does anyone know if TR and experience gained on a COMR aircraft in a foreign state can be used towards license issue in the UK?
Clearly no license is required for a COMR aircraft, but have the CAA ever recognised flying gained in another country?
The intention would to be to complete all the theory exams and a skills test for CPL in the UK, but based on flying elsewhere.
I would hugely grateful for anyone's experience or sage advice.
Thank you
Ralph
Does anyone know if TR and experience gained on a COMR aircraft in a foreign state can be used towards license issue in the UK?
Clearly no license is required for a COMR aircraft, but have the CAA ever recognised flying gained in another country?
The intention would to be to complete all the theory exams and a skills test for CPL in the UK, but based on flying elsewhere.
I would hugely grateful for anyone's experience or sage advice.
Thank you
Ralph
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Does anyone know how firmly this scheme is set in stone and whether an amendment could be submitted to extend the scheme to experienced multi engine pilots?
If it can, would anyone be interested in clubbing together at Brize and Staffing the necessary work to make it happen for our and later generations? All I am hearing on Sqn from first tourists is how can purchase the BGS course for self study and where is best for their skills test and IRT training. Not a particularly good sign for the future really is it?
If it can, would anyone be interested in clubbing together at Brize and Staffing the necessary work to make it happen for our and later generations? All I am hearing on Sqn from first tourists is how can purchase the BGS course for self study and where is best for their skills test and IRT training. Not a particularly good sign for the future really is it?
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Clearly no license is required for a COMR aircraft,...
So if military training is no longer civilian accredited, there may be trouble ahead!
Last edited by LFFC; 6th Aug 2012 at 16:13.
SimonK, presumably the 36 months applies to the date of passing the last exam taken?
Runaway Gun, regrettably nothing produced by EASA is in a form which makes comprehension straightforward. Their documents are abysmally structured and almost impossible for any normal person to understand.
The CAA has attempted to simplify the turgid €uroprose of EASA, but still insists on using that dreadful Sir Humphrey-speak of theirs....
Those of us more familiar with Defence Writing and GASOs find such scribble totally frustrating and almost designed to deceive......
Runaway Gun, regrettably nothing produced by EASA is in a form which makes comprehension straightforward. Their documents are abysmally structured and almost impossible for any normal person to understand.
The CAA has attempted to simplify the turgid €uroprose of EASA, but still insists on using that dreadful Sir Humphrey-speak of theirs....
Those of us more familiar with Defence Writing and GASOs find such scribble totally frustrating and almost designed to deceive......