Libya - A Great Investment
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Australia - South of where I'd like to be !
Age: 59
Posts: 4,261
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
They go ballistic when the koran is burned and then do this ?
It's survived and kept clean by them for 50 + years to be destroyed
by a bunch of people who might have been speaking German or Italian
if it hadn't have been for the Allies.
It's survived and kept clean by them for 50 + years to be destroyed
by a bunch of people who might have been speaking German or Italian
if it hadn't have been for the Allies.
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: bristol
Age: 56
Posts: 1,051
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I just found that so very very sad to watch.
Did the locals bombard the West telling us they did not like us and did not want our support when we were saving their lives and giving them freedom during the recent skirmishes? Maybe they did, but I never saw it, and only remember various spokesmen asking for more help.
The video has left a nasty dull feeling in my stomach, which is made worse by the fact services are being cut in my local area so I could pay to support these people, and that British forces have been some of these scums key enablers.
Did the locals bombard the West telling us they did not like us and did not want our support when we were saving their lives and giving them freedom during the recent skirmishes? Maybe they did, but I never saw it, and only remember various spokesmen asking for more help.
The video has left a nasty dull feeling in my stomach, which is made worse by the fact services are being cut in my local area so I could pay to support these people, and that British forces have been some of these scums key enablers.
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,975
Received 2,882 Likes
on
1,231 Posts
Scum, and worse than that, they are desecrating graves of those countries that were not responsible for burning the Koran.
One hopes their new Government see's this and realises the effect it will have in their support and deals with them accordingly.
One hopes their new Government see's this and realises the effect it will have in their support and deals with them accordingly.
Evertonian
It's all part of the plan.
They needed the Wests help to topple Ghaddafi because none of the other Arab states had the guts or inclination, but to their "brothers", they must be seen as anti-West.
Once Syria falls to the fundamentalist scum, I reckon we'll start to see some form of unification, regardless of the factions, that will almost form a single combined fundamentalist state. If I was Israel, I'd make sure the stockpile was accurate & full.
They needed the Wests help to topple Ghaddafi because none of the other Arab states had the guts or inclination, but to their "brothers", they must be seen as anti-West.
Once Syria falls to the fundamentalist scum, I reckon we'll start to see some form of unification, regardless of the factions, that will almost form a single combined fundamentalist state. If I was Israel, I'd make sure the stockpile was accurate & full.
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Australia - South of where I'd like to be !
Age: 59
Posts: 4,261
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I haven't seen this in the UK papers yet.
Has it been in them ?
I would have thought that it would be front page news
and an outcry if it was in them.
Has it been in them ?
I would have thought that it would be front page news
and an outcry if it was in them.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Words fail me.
It has finally made the UK papers
Insult to WWII heroes: Graves of British soldiers smashed and desecrated by Libyan Islamists in protest over U.S. soldiers' Koran burning | Mail Online
It has finally made the UK papers
Insult to WWII heroes: Graves of British soldiers smashed and desecrated by Libyan Islamists in protest over U.S. soldiers' Koran burning | Mail Online
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: The real world
Posts: 446
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Very sad, but I think people need to remember our colonial, emperial past.
From 1942 we and the French took control of Libya and put down any independant resistance! If there is one thing Arabs hate more than anything else it is being occupied and told what to do by Westerners. We might be upset but really we should not be surprised, anti western feelings will NEVER go away.
From 1942 we and the French took control of Libya and put down any independant resistance! If there is one thing Arabs hate more than anything else it is being occupied and told what to do by Westerners. We might be upset but really we should not be surprised, anti western feelings will NEVER go away.
From 1942 we and the French took control of Libya and put down any independant resistance! If there is one thing Arabs hate more than anything else it is being occupied and told what to do by Westerners.
Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya et al have never been worth the life of 1 British serviceman/Woman.
If the, "We're doing the world policing so that they can't export terror to us." argument is really appropriate, then don't let them out of their borders. Any of them.
CG (Quite right wing for me- hey ho.)
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Philippines
Age: 81
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
For crying out loud Jayland, get real and stop trying to feed some justification into this incident, imho it’s damn all to do with colonial past, I doubt in fact the level of education of that lot extends to any real history anyhow. No, it’s a bunch of moronic Islamic extremists displaying well and truly how miserably low they can get and is more likely motivated simply by allowing themselves get stirred up by some religious zealot. I would have thought they would have been a little better filling up their time cleaning up some of the mess their place is in and helping rebuild the country; but I suppose I should not really have any reasonable expectations of such low life. In the meantime I wait for the sounds of outrage and condemnation from the so called ‘moderate’ elements of their religious persuasion.
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: The real world
Posts: 446
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Am not trying to justify this hideous act but merely putting a different perspective on it.
I think you underestimate their knowledge and appreciation of their own history, these people have been the subject of foreign (white man) intervention and rule for centuries, they know whats happened.
I am as sickened as the next man but only a fool would be surprised.
I think you underestimate their knowledge and appreciation of their own history, these people have been the subject of foreign (white man) intervention and rule for centuries, they know whats happened.
I am as sickened as the next man but only a fool would be surprised.
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Australia - South of where I'd like to be !
Age: 59
Posts: 4,261
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jayand
Until 1951 when it was granted independence or if you like, 1969.
So if they know history, why are the destroying a Commonwealth Graves,
Ottoman, then Italy, a brief period after WW11 by ? then independence.
And then white man helped them get out of the situation last year.
Until 1951 when it was granted independence or if you like, 1969.
So if they know history, why are the destroying a Commonwealth Graves,
Ottoman, then Italy, a brief period after WW11 by ? then independence.
And then white man helped them get out of the situation last year.
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 816
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If they have such a comprehensive appreciation of history then perhaps thay can cast their minds back 5 months to when the 'infidels' enabled them to achieve their freedom. Without our input these very people would probably now be hanging from meathooks in one of Gadaffi's jails.
Of course every society has its f---wits and I trust these are not representative of the new leadership of Libya, who now have a clear choice between entering the modern world or returning to the dark ages. What we do not need is an Al Qaeda colony within spitting distance of mainland Europe.
At the very least I would like to see a formal, diplomatic complaint to the new government of Libya, and perhaps the full cost of restoration and 24-hour guard in perpetuity should be deducted from their share of the aid budget, which is no doubt colossal.
Of course every society has its f---wits and I trust these are not representative of the new leadership of Libya, who now have a clear choice between entering the modern world or returning to the dark ages. What we do not need is an Al Qaeda colony within spitting distance of mainland Europe.
At the very least I would like to see a formal, diplomatic complaint to the new government of Libya, and perhaps the full cost of restoration and 24-hour guard in perpetuity should be deducted from their share of the aid budget, which is no doubt colossal.
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: The real world
Posts: 446
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: The real world
Posts: 446
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
History teaches us that arabs will readily take our help but will rarely thank us for it!
The bottom line is they want nothing to do with us and only have sympathy for countries where we are involved/occupy. That anger/sympathy is massively heightened by the huge own goal of burning the koran!
Not defending any of their actions but people need to think of the bigger picture.
Ten years from now we may regret ever helping get rid of Col Gadaffi.
The bottom line is they want nothing to do with us and only have sympathy for countries where we are involved/occupy. That anger/sympathy is massively heightened by the huge own goal of burning the koran!
Not defending any of their actions but people need to think of the bigger picture.
Ten years from now we may regret ever helping get rid of Col Gadaffi.