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Ewan Whosearmy 1st Mar 2012 21:30

Libya - A Great Investment
 
That £100m we spent helping the Libyan people be free was clearly a wise investment:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54c_1330621949
:ugh:

racedo 1st Mar 2012 21:40

Its what Hague wanted............ am Islamic govt with support from Al Qaeda....Bet he and his oil chums are happy now.

500N 1st Mar 2012 21:48

They go ballistic when the koran is burned and then do this ?

It's survived and kept clean by them for 50 + years to be destroyed
by a bunch of people who might have been speaking German or Italian
if it hadn't have been for the Allies.

Coochycool 1st Mar 2012 21:50

Makes my blood boil this.

Useful scenario for a SF exercise though. See who the real soldiers are.

Word gets around ;o)

These fools go home

barnstormer1968 1st Mar 2012 22:30

I just found that so very very sad to watch.

Did the locals bombard the West telling us they did not like us and did not want our support when we were saving their lives and giving them freedom during the recent skirmishes? Maybe they did, but I never saw it, and only remember various spokesmen asking for more help.

The video has left a nasty dull feeling in my stomach, which is made worse by the fact services are being cut in my local area so I could pay to support these people, and that British forces have been some of these scums key enablers.:confused:

NutLoose 2nd Mar 2012 00:27

Scum, and worse than that, they are desecrating graves of those countries that were not responsible for burning the Koran.

One hopes their new Government see's this and realises the effect it will have in their support and deals with them accordingly.

Buster Hyman 2nd Mar 2012 02:03

It's all part of the plan.

They needed the Wests help to topple Ghaddafi because none of the other Arab states had the guts or inclination, but to their "brothers", they must be seen as anti-West.

Once Syria falls to the fundamentalist scum, I reckon we'll start to see some form of unification, regardless of the factions, that will almost form a single combined fundamentalist state. If I was Israel, I'd make sure the stockpile was accurate & full.

Robert Cooper 2nd Mar 2012 03:18

They are Muslims, it's what they do. They did the same to the British military cemeteries in Iraq.

Bob C

500N 2nd Mar 2012 04:50

I haven't seen this in the UK papers yet.

Has it been in them ?

I would have thought that it would be front page news
and an outcry if it was in them.

polyglory 2nd Mar 2012 05:22

Words fail me.

It has finally made the UK papers

Insult to WWII heroes: Graves of British soldiers smashed and desecrated by Libyan Islamists in protest over U.S. soldiers' Koran burning | Mail Online

Thelma Viaduct 2nd Mar 2012 05:23

Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya et al have never been worth the life of 1 British serviceman/Woman.


But please feel free to kid yourself otherwise.

VinRouge 2nd Mar 2012 06:22

kind of makes me care a little bit less when I see a guy with a beard in kit form in Syria. sad really. Leave em to it.

Jayand 2nd Mar 2012 08:30

Very sad, but I think people need to remember our colonial, emperial past.
From 1942 we and the French took control of Libya and put down any independant resistance! If there is one thing Arabs hate more than anything else it is being occupied and told what to do by Westerners. We might be upset but really we should not be surprised, anti western feelings will NEVER go away.

charliegolf 2nd Mar 2012 08:44


From 1942 we and the French took control of Libya and put down any independant resistance! If there is one thing Arabs hate more than anything else it is being occupied and told what to do by Westerners.
For that reason, and a bit of empathy with....


Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya et al have never been worth the life of 1 British serviceman/Woman.

... we should let them get on with it. Their stone age view of life doesn't fit with ours- so be it. And oil? They will still want to sell it, or in their isolation, they will fester and die.

If the, "We're doing the world policing so that they can't export terror to us." argument is really appropriate, then don't let them out of their borders. Any of them.

CG (Quite right wing for me- hey ho.)

Q-RTF-X 2nd Mar 2012 09:03

For crying out loud Jayland, get real and stop trying to feed some justification into this incident, imho it’s damn all to do with colonial past, I doubt in fact the level of education of that lot extends to any real history anyhow. No, it’s a bunch of moronic Islamic extremists displaying well and truly how miserably low they can get and is more likely motivated simply by allowing themselves get stirred up by some religious zealot. I would have thought they would have been a little better filling up their time cleaning up some of the mess their place is in and helping rebuild the country; but I suppose I should not really have any reasonable expectations of such low life. In the meantime I wait for the sounds of outrage and condemnation from the so called ‘moderate’ elements of their religious persuasion.

Jayand 2nd Mar 2012 13:10

Am not trying to justify this hideous act but merely putting a different perspective on it.
I think you underestimate their knowledge and appreciation of their own history, these people have been the subject of foreign (white man) intervention and rule for centuries, they know whats happened.
I am as sickened as the next man but only a fool would be surprised.

500N 2nd Mar 2012 13:25

Jayand

Until 1951 when it was granted independence or if you like, 1969.


So if they know history, why are the destroying a Commonwealth Graves,

Ottoman, then Italy, a brief period after WW11 by ? then independence.
And then white man helped them get out of the situation last year.

Torque Tonight 2nd Mar 2012 13:47

If they have such a comprehensive appreciation of history then perhaps thay can cast their minds back 5 months to when the 'infidels' enabled them to achieve their freedom. Without our input these very people would probably now be hanging from meathooks in one of Gadaffi's jails.

Of course every society has its f---wits and I trust these are not representative of the new leadership of Libya, who now have a clear choice between entering the modern world or returning to the dark ages. What we do not need is an Al Qaeda colony within spitting distance of mainland Europe.

At the very least I would like to see a formal, diplomatic complaint to the new government of Libya, and perhaps the full cost of restoration and 24-hour guard in perpetuity should be deducted from their share of the aid budget, which is no doubt colossal.

Jayand 2nd Mar 2012 13:48

BBC News - History through Libyan eyes

Jayand 2nd Mar 2012 13:58

History teaches us that arabs will readily take our help but will rarely thank us for it!
The bottom line is they want nothing to do with us and only have sympathy for countries where we are involved/occupy. That anger/sympathy is massively heightened by the huge own goal of burning the koran!
Not defending any of their actions but people need to think of the bigger picture.
Ten years from now we may regret ever helping get rid of Col Gadaffi.


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